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Wolfguard
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Posted on: Mar. 28 2002,17:15 |
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Ok
What the NSA (the CIA is not chartered to work in the country) has setup is a bunch of keywords. all calls in an AREA that is under watch are recorded and watched by a few computers that scan for keywords. If a call does not contain the keyword(s) they are looking for it is deleted. If it flags on a word it is sent onto a human that checks the messages content.
If the human is worried enough he will send it on to the FBI who will then start to investigate the area.
Its not as scary as some people think but it is still scary stuff.
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ic0n0
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Posted on: Mar. 28 2002,17:21 |
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Not another thread like this!
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Bozeman
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Posted on: Mar. 28 2002,17:52 |
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Quote (BlackFlag @ 28 Mar. 2002,04:32) | Read FCC rules part 15b, (the paragraph of legal mumbo-jumbo that comes with every electronic device you've ever bought.) "This device must accept interference, including that which might cause undesired operation." Now, why do you suppose that sentence is there......? |
I don't know why that's there, but it's on the back of my TI-83 graphing calculator. Perhaps there's some very bored, very talented Van Eck Phreaker watching my calculator screen?
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Post Number: 24
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BlackFlag
Objections noted; Notes discarded.
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Posted on: Mar. 28 2002,18:29 |
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Info i got about the phone calls being recorded came from a friend who's a retired hacker. (he stopped when men in dark suits and sunglasses driving black sedans started following him.) The info is old (early/mid 80's), so they might have totaly changed the system by now. Or not. I don't know all the specifics on whether all the phone calls are recorded, or only flaged ones, but at the very least, every phone call is monitored.
And if you think im blowing smoke up your ass about feds being able to monitor and to a limited extent manipulate your computer remotely through EM emissions, ask yourself why mr. military expert (*cough*WG*cough*) hasn't taken this wonderfull oportunity to tell me how much of a fuck-nugget i am.
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Jynx
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Posted on: Mar. 28 2002,18:54 |
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Possibly because you're doing such a good job of it yourself??
Quote | i would say "welcome to 1984".... bet we've already been there for a long time. |
Do you even know what you're talking about? Have you read the book? Sorry, man, but we are quite a long ways from that extreme.
And how exactly do you expect me to believe that nonsense about your "ex-hacker friend" and the "men in dark suits"? Sorry, but I'm solidly with Wiley on this one.
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Post Number: 26
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kuru
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Posted on: Mar. 28 2002,19:23 |
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EVen Wolfy stops at a certain level of pointing out the obvious.
You are being a moron, Mr. Black 'I believe everything I read in Weekly World News' Flag.
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Post Number: 27
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Nikita
Princess of Darkness Spy. Assassin. Seductress.
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Posted on: Mar. 28 2002,19:53 |
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Quote (BlackFlag @ 28 Mar. 2002,13:29) | (he stopped when men in dark suits and sunglasses driving black sedans started following him.) |
I'd have to say that's pretty darned conspicuous. You'd figure they'd try to blend in instead of standing out like a 3rd testicle on someone's forehead.
If I saw a bunch of black vans parked around an area and a bunch of people wearing sunglasses and dark clothing pile out like clowns coming out of a clown car, I'm getting outta there.
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Post Number: 28
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Wiley
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Posted on: Mar. 28 2002,20:06 |
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Quote (BlackFlag @ 28 Mar. 2002,10:29) | Info i got about the phone calls being recorded came from a friend who's a retired hacker. ...... I don't know all the specifics on whether all the phone calls are recorded, or only flaged ones, but at the very least, every phone call is monitored. |
Oh yeah ...because hackers are a reliable source of fact. Especially the ones who don't actually work with the government. I called my hacker friend Marc (a hacker who works with the NSA and such. Here's a writeup of some of his testimony in front of congress ...he's about the most legit hacker I could come up with on short notice) to ask him his opinion of what your "Hacker" friend told you. His answer was "that's stupid". You see, the government doesn't control the phone network ...in fact they imposed laws to keep control of the network in the hands of private companies. Offering special access to the infustructure of the ILECs (Incumbrant Local Exchange Carrieres) to new emerging CLECs (Competative Local Exchange Carriers) just to stimulate private competition in the telcomm industry. All these companies would have to allow the government access to their systems ...a huge pain in the ass requiring a court order. Don't get me wrong, just about any agency can get a court order to tap your line and record you, but they don't record everybody or have a system in place to review every call.
Quote | And if you think im blowing smoke up your ass about feds being able to monitor and to a limited extent manipulate your computer remotely through EM emissions, ask yourself why mr. military expert (*cough*WG*cough*) hasn't taken this wonderfull oportunity to tell me how much of a fuck-nugget i am. |
um ...why bother. First off, just because WG was in the millitary doesn't mean he has knowlege of all millitary dealings and this may not be within WG's realm of expertise ...maybe he doesn't want to talk out his ass like you do ...but that doesn't make your theory fact. Do you know how close you'd have to be to get any usable information off of a system using EMI?? Certainly not parked outside in a bread truck.
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Post Number: 29
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DELUDED_BIPED
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Posted on: Mar. 29 2002,04:00 |
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All electronics create a multitude of noise...My guess would be that the interference you are getting is just noise from the air around you, the electronic and waves from space.
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Post Number: 30
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editor
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Posted on: Mar. 29 2002,04:45 |
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yes! and I hear that if you put balls of tinfoil in your hubcaps, that will defeat the radar the cops use!
rilly!
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