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Dysorderia 
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Sir? May I recommend I load myself into the reverse-thrust tubes and you use my body as decoy-fodder? This will, of course leave me splattered across deep space and unable to complete today's laundry, for which I apologise in advance.
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Wolfguard
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Posted on: Mar. 29 2002,16:18 |
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| Quote (Wiley @ 28 Mar. 2002,15:06) | | First off, just because WG was in the millitary doesn't mean he has knowlege of all millitary dealings and this may not be within WG's realm of expertise ...maybe he doesn't want to talk out his ass like you do |
I was a grunt, i went places with people in it and removed said people.
I did make friends with some of the scary suits that did explain things in simple terms that would not get people in trouble how and why some places became places that needed the people relocated to a higher plain of existance.
90% of the mindless babble comes from the goverment. Say im uncle sam. I set up a "secure" server and put a lot of "top secret" documents on this and i connect it to the internet.
The moment it is hacked and the documents taken i make it go away so far that it never really existed.
This gives me a hacker that thinks he got something he had to work for. I deny everything about the "server" and the "documents". maybe i even grab a guy from the NSA to follow this guy around for a month. If im in a really pissy mood i get a sniper to take a shot at him and leave a bullet hole someplace, that i get people to fix the moment he runs.
See where im going with this guys?
Im the goverment, you only see what i want you to see.
Take area 51.
Now, im Uncle sam again. I have a ufo and i want to hide it and test it and play with my new toy. a quick leak tells a moron that area 51 is where i have it. I put guys with big guns and black cammo all around the place and chace everyone away. at night i test stealth aircraft.
The entire time i have my UFO someplace else and i can play with it in peace cause all the morons are looking where i want them to.
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Anztac
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Posted on: Mar. 29 2002,16:32 |
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UFO's used to be at Wright Patterson here in Ohio, my dad claims they're still housed there. Also I've been told that a large supply of our nuclear weapons are hidden here as well. Far away from either coast, low major eathquake activity, nothing but yokels for miles. Anyways, there's a huge marble building not a few miles away, really creppy, huge anti-tank measures all around it, snipers always posted, it's something to do with nuclear weapons control.
Weird shit. This is why Columbus is supposedly right after New York, Washington, and a couple other cities to be first taken out.
I'm sorry if this is all grossly incorrect, just what I've been told.
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Wiley
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Posted on: Mar. 29 2002,16:55 |
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The best hiding place is right under your nose. Take the stealth boat dock in San Diego (now declassified). The Navy built this big floating fully enclosed dock in the middle of the harbor and told everybody it was a secret radar station ..shhhh don't tell anybody. Nobody paid attention to it and nobody ever noticed the top secret boats going in and out of it in the middle of the night.
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Beldurin
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Posted on: Mar. 29 2002,17:40 |
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| Quote (Anztac @ 29 Mar. 2002,08:32) | UFO's used to be at Wright Patterson here in Ohio...it's something to do with nuclear weapons control.
Weird shit. This is why Columbus is supposedly right after New York, Washington, and a couple other cities to be first taken out. |
Um...why Columbus, again? Wright-Pat is in Dayton
As for Black Flag's "Read FCC rules part 15b, (the paragraph of legal mumbo-jumbo that comes with every electronic device you've ever bought.) "This device must accept interference, including that which might cause undesired operation." Now, why do you suppose that sentence is there......? Why would the FCC make a rule that consumer electronics could not be shielded from external EM sources?"
It says that the devices must accept interference not accommodate interference. How would you like to be a telecom equipment manager who's equipment must be completely, 100% interference-free from all EMI? A regulation like that would make any equipment manufacturer immediatly vulnerable to lawsuit when Joe-Bob next door fucks up the wiring in his tool shed and makes the entire thing an antenna, or the radio station down the street is over modulated (as happened with the last place I worked). It's also a design guideline to help ensure that the equipment will be somewhat fault-tolerant to such interference, since they've been somewhat engineered for failure.
Of all the agencies out there that could be spying on us, the FCC is pretty low on my list. Besides, even if the NSA was using that as a method to monitor transmissions (wireless is pretty much the only way unless you could physically tap the medium...do you notice any men in dark suits and sunglasses inside your computer? no? Then I think you're fine), do you really think that government agencies can pull off that level of coordination and cooperation? Maybe, but I doubt it.
Besides, the media is pretty damn good at finding scandals and cover-ups. There are enough things to worry about in the world without concocting this extreme paranoid delusions.
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BlackFlag
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Posted on: Mar. 29 2002,21:32 |
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ok, i addmit an ex-hacker may not be the best source of info, and now that i look back on what he told me, it sounds alot like it might be a case of distributed missinformations WG was talking about.
the thing about being able to remotely monitor computers is fucking real though. im not going to say anything else on the subject, cause i don't want to get myself or others in trouble. think what you want. whether you believe it or not, big brother is watching.
I will say this though-- if we have the electronic warfare technology to do things like precisely manipulating the onboard computer of an incomming missile with microwave signals to do a 180 and hit the site it was launched from (and yes, we do have the capability to do that to some missiles), how much harder would it be to do something similar to a stationary object at a closer range?
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Wiley
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Posted on: Mar. 29 2002,22:26 |
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A friend of mine used to always say "possible, but not probable" when asked if something could be done. Yes it would technically be possible to do a little spying by collecting EM information from a source computer ....but why? It would be so much easier to just put some trojan keystroke logger or vampire tap the ethernet next to the computer or drop a sniffer somewhere on the target network. Hell, just kidnap the target and beat him until he talks ...why bother with all the borderline possible technologies, stick with the stuff that is easy and gets results. Our government is at least smart enough to know this.
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BlackFlag
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Posted on: Mar. 29 2002,23:34 |
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all of those would be easier, but not always possible, or the best option. sometimes what someone will soon find out is more important that what they already know, wich is one of the reasons for using wire taps, etc. in the first place instead of arrest and interrogation.
I admit that i don't know any of the specifics of how this would work, or know of any specific instances where this was done.... all i know is what little i got out of "im not supposed to say anything, but what the hell, you've got a secret clearance....." type conversations.
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damien_s_lucifer
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Posted on: Mar. 30 2002,02:07 |
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I always figured that part of the FCC rules was meant to say "if your TV set gets interference from a neighboring radio station - tough luck, pal."
Nothing in the FCC rules prevents anyone from making a device that is well-shielded from EMI. If you want to place your device inside a 1,000 ton iron core, no problem.
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editor
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Posted on: Mar. 30 2002,03:03 |
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Wouldn't a Faraday cage be a lot easier?
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