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PostIcon Posted on: May 31 2000,20:31  Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

MIB: "a person is smart... People are stupid."

Any organized process that relies on people will have faults. People have opinions, and when forced to choose, will choose either the greater good, or the lesser evil (or whatever is funniest). Political concessions will always have to be made, as a person will choose what is in his/her best interest.

I feel that the best mix of politics would be a Socialistic Democracy (figgger that out).

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see, i'm one of those weird kids that reads a lot and plays with computers... oh, maybe everyone can relate. anyway.

dustman, you ever read 1984? that's the shit you need. i dig the anti utopias and your idea is a combo of Huxley's "Brave New World" and Orwell's "1984." You're talking about mind control as a long term plan (i have to assume you're more or less serious) and military presence as the short term solution. so my question is, how do you plan to recruit, train, arm, and-most importantly-control a 1.2 billion soldiers. they would be bigger parasites on global resources than the current population already is. besides, soldiers need prostitutes, and they'd get real angry as soon as they ran out; there just wouldn't be that many ho's in the world if 1.2 BILLION people were under arms.

the only way that form of route would work is through propaganda. or really good advertising.

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Wow! Genocide, mind control, military state, absolute authoritarianism. Let's kill off 66\% of the population and pith the rest of it. Could you remind me what is the point of all of this? Oh yeah, to make the world a better place for humans... what a great solution!

Have you gotten the point yet? There is NO political panacea. Can you say, "duh?"

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who said anything about making the world better for mankind? we're trying to conserve resources and all that crap. but mainly it's to make the world better for ME. not all those pitiful rednecks and morons outside, but for ME. like any of this is going to happen anyway, we're just shooting the shit. well, most of us anyway, don't know about nero.
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i felt the need to reply to the especially fun posts.. then i read the thread and though i'd add my own 2 cents

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You're on a roll talking to yourself, bud. Get your head checked.


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No, incubus, i'm not on crack.

Take rabbits, predators control their numbers and they are not able to cause any great harm because of what they do.

We have no significant predators. We are able to cause great harm to our environment.

What is to control our numbers?

There must be something.

If you don't think this is a problem now i invite you to step down the line 50 years, with this exponential growth.

Think about it. Why is the base of why you obey your government? For a lot of people it's the police. The governments military force for dealing with internal matters.

The government will be able to get away with anything if they have a massive military presence.

But what if the soldiers rebel?

Deal with that by hypnosis. They will do anything their commanders say.

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Ok, I believe the only real threat humans pose is nuclear weapons. Besides that we pose no real threat. I mean how concided are we that we think that we can pose a threat to earth? Seriously. I mean even if we devoted are lifes to trying to destroy the enviroment by consuming resources killing anamals and plants we would eventually die out, but the earth would still have a few living organizims that would eventually turn into larger populations. So we don't need to worry about that. Now I am concerned about keeping humans alive. So if your concerned about enviromental affairs don't try to act as though you give a shit about the anamals. I mean I have a thing for cats, whales, etc. so I do care about them, but if they were to die out in the end it probably wouldn't matter to me that much.

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It must be, therefore, nero, that the organisation that puts this into practise must rule by ABSOLUTE military force. Lets say one trained soldier in every five people..

Lets face it whatever method is used to choose who gets smeared is going to incite a rebellion of sorts, let's just get a massive f**king army to control the people. The army's loyalty can be assured using mind control and hypnotic methods.

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It's not the threat to the earth as a whole that bothers me. The only reason i'm worries about what happens to the environment is because of what that'll mean to out species.

What is happening in the animal kingdom is a good barometer of the state of the environmetnt..

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grr... if we guarantee our survival by means of mind control and hypnotism of the masses, and even the people in power if you go the 1984 route, we WON'T be guaranteeing the survival of the human race because we won't be human anymore... i mean if the majority of the population is kept in check or whatnot in 1984 type fashion you loose everything that is actually true intelligence/sentience/free will, the stuff that separates man from beast/dumb computers, and you got a massive, thriving, controlled complex little fungus type species with no point to it whatsoever other than breeding and surviving.

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