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Anybody here ever read "The Lottery"? It's a short story, I'm not sure who wrote it. Basically, the townspeople gather in town once a year and hold a lottery. If you get the piece of paper with a black dot on it, you 'win'. Winning means you get stoned to death, and, IIRC, are used as fertilizer.

Wow, thats really off topic, but I guess its kind of socialism, but more primitive religion.

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Just as a comment on Slicer saying that gays cannot reproduce. First, yes they can, they just cannot do it with someone of their same sex. Second, gay people are not a species, they are simply a slight genetic variant (usually). Oh, and to throw this in, everyone on Earth could live in Texas if we each had something like 40 sq.ft. of living space. I don't know the exact statistic, and I also don't know why anyone would want to live in Texas
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The area of Texas is 266,874 sq. miles. One square mile is 27,878,400 sq. feet. Thus the area of Texas is about 7,440,020,121,600 sq. feet. If there are about 6 Billion people in the world, that would give each of them about 1240 square feet to live on, or about one 35.21 foot by 35.21 foot section of land. At the time the Texas statisic first became popular there were about 4.5 billion people in the world, which means that each of them could have had about a 40.66 x 40.66 foot section of land, or 1653 square feet.

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besides the steers and queers cliche, what's wrong with texas? as opposed to insulting alabama, or delaware?

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Here's the thing though, Zamt, if they can't reproduce with someone of the same sex, and they won't with the opposite, then they can't reproduce. If you're thinking adoption or artificial insemination (sp?) or other means of getting children without heterosexual sex, then you're forgetting that these methods pass down only 1 partner's genes at best, neither in the worst case. So theyre still not really reproducing in the classical sense.

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My two cents-

Communism and anarchism, in principle, are terrific ideals. If things could work in practice like they do on paper, we would live in a great world. That's why it's too bad that communism is doomed to failure. Humans are far too self-centered for it to ever work. Ditto for anarchism. It's simply a restructuring of power. Revolution, the rich lose everything, and a select few gain everything. The new lower class becomes angry. Start a new revolution. Rinse, repeat.

Then again, aren't we really just animals at heart? Why would we expect our tendencies to be any different? And if we are not, then when will we change?

Democracy, even with it's faults, is the best system that's come along so far, without a doubt. Sure, governments can be annoying, but what's the alternative? Mass chaos?? Every man for themselves? Everyone kills each other in a desperate struggle for power, and our race ends in a bloody apocalypse?? Come on, cheer up, would yah.

Also, I think a lot of you are viewing this from a very American perspective. Try to remember that the USA only constitutes 5\% of the worlds' population. Believe it or not, there are about 5.7 billion non-Americans in our world, and yes, believe it or not, they matter too.

Anyway, interesting topic none the less. It's fun to talk about this kind of stuff, but in the end, when we look at the "big picture", our purpose, future, etc., let's face the facts- there is only so much we can healthily ponder.

I think that if everyone in the world would (or more accurately, 'could') just sit back with a some friends and a beer (or a soda pop ), and watch the sunset now and then, our world would be a heck of a lot better. Remember, when it comes down to it, the most important thing is that every one of us are here right this moment, so lets make the most of it, and who knows, maybe we can even make a little difference along the way.

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How deep! Thanks for the closure!

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On another level, you could say that the AI's in Matrix have actually helped humans. They are simply repressing Humans, but man will perpetuate "forever". The AI's may just be after energy for themselves but at the same time they are fulfilling all of mans needs.
Is Ignorance really Bliss ?
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Anarchy was the whole idea behind Fight Club. Tyler wanted exactly the kind of violence and devolution of society that FireFox pointed out. Go check out my thread for more about Fight Club. (sorry for the plug)

Also, Ignorance isn't always bliss, it tends to catch up on you. But it makes a great explanation for tons of things. Like in school, I don't know about homework assignment, I don't do hwk assignment, I go have fun instead. I am ignorant, but also blissful. The next day, in class, I'm fux0red, but until then, all is bliss...

That's why it will occasionally appear in my sig.

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Just a cool/weird link that's I thought I'd post since I noticed a few posts about the Malthusian population concern.

Voluntary Human Extinction Movement

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