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CatKnight 
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Posted on: Jul. 19 2002,23:53 |
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ahh, good old "up", the last bastion of political orthogonality 
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ic0n0
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Posted on: Jul. 20 2002,01:30 |
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I agree with whats been said, the many poor people remain poor because of current system of government handouts, no need to improve etc. But to just stop it outright will cause more problems with the kids of those Leeches. I don’t have answer, but if we cut off all government support we are going to really fuckup a generation of kids.
Edited by ic0n0 on Jan. 01 1970,01:00
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Darth Liberus
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Posted on: Jul. 20 2002,02:33 |
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I can't believe I just posted something about what liberalism means and CK didn't bash the shit out of me... what's the temperature in Hell today?
Of course, I also think CK understands things much better than he lets on; I'd say he's playing the same exact game that Rush Limbaugh does.
At some point you ought to join us, CK... the people you really want to reach don't listen to conservatives, only react against them. On the other hand, if you announce that you're a physicist and a liberal they'll be all ears... calling yourself a "liberal" these days is so ballsy that it stuns them into submission, then you hit their politically correct b.s. with
"that's not liberalism - liberalism is about individuality, freedom, tolerance, contemplating many different ideas and having enough brains to suspend judgement on things until you have enough evidence to make a fair decision... and keeping a sense of humor about it all so you don't shove your head too far up your ass. <pointing to chest>I am a liberal. <sneer> You're just a leftist."
They think real hard about that one
Edited by Darth Liberus on Jan. 01 1970,01:00
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CatKnight
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Posted on: Jul. 20 2002,06:52 |
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hey ic0n0, would you consider bush's welfare reform plan? that is to give benefits to those families who stay together, have short (1-2 year) limits on pure welfare, and the gradual welfare/income withdrawl?
dsl--outside of campus the only liberal physicists i know of are the ones who came up with that bunk global warming data. and if that is your definition of what you think you are, then you would be a conservative (or possibly a liberal from a few decades ago).
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TheTaxMan
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Posted on: Jul. 20 2002,07:43 |
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Hahahahahaha!
Global Warming is not a myth.
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Four billion years of evolution and this is all we have to show for it?
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damien_s_lucifer
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Posted on: Jul. 20 2002,12:48 |
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You're right about my form of liberalism having its roots in the old school. I learned it at the knees of Daddy and Granddaddy Liberus, both of whom warned me repeatedly to be very skeptical of the Left as well as the Right.
"the Left destroyed all that was good and true about liberalism... they sold out the human race for a bunch of whales." - Daddy Liberus
"Fuck the left, dad. They don't get to take over our philosophy. This is bullshit. Thanks to them, liberal is a bad word right now... well, good. Great. Bring it on. Every time a person bashes me for being a 'liberal' it's another chance to explain what liberalism is supposed to mean and encourage people to live up to it. I'm not going to cave in and call myself some pansy-ass name like 'progressive' or 'independent' or 'conservative' because of a bunch of stupid whales... I am a LIBERAL with TEETH and CLAWS and a THIRST FOR BLOOD!" - Me, borrowing a little bit from James Carville and a lot from Hunter S. Thompson
Yep, gotta bring back the old school...
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CatKnight
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Posted on: Jul. 20 2002,17:11 |
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| Quote (TheTaxMan @ 20 July 2002,02:43) | Hahahahahaha!
Global Warming is not a myth. |
did I say global warming was just a myth?
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ic0n0
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Posted on: Jul. 20 2002,18:13 |
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| Quote (CatKnight @ 19 July 2002,16:52) | hey ic0n0, would you consider bush's welfare reform plan? that is to give benefits to those families who stay together, have short (1-2 year) limits on pure welfare, and the gradual welfare/income withdrawl?
dsl--outside of campus the only liberal physicists i know of are the ones who came up with that bunk global warming data. and if that is your definition of what you think you are, then you would be a conservative (or possibly a liberal from a few decades ago). |
Yes, families that stay together (provided there are no abusive parents) are better for the kids. A gradual welfare reduction would be better then doing it all at once. Although i do think there needs to be a basic simple government program to help people down on their luck, for lack of a better name call it unemployment+.
Edited by ic0n0 on Jan. 01 1970,01:00
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damien_s_lucifer
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Posted on: Jul. 22 2002,00:14 |
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I think TheTaxMan was referring to Hell freezing over lol
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CatKnight
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Posted on: Jul. 22 2002,01:59 |
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i think unemployment benefits for ~3 months, with a max of 6 months in 3 years or something is fine.
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