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Chrissy 
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| Quote (Darth Liberus @ 12 July 2002,15:44) | <voice of experience>
I wasn't attacking you, I was poking fun at the Archie Bunker crowd.
chrissy, if you're going to be a good liberal - a noble cause, and one which I highly recommend, as I hope my nickname shows - you have to lighten up a bit. Otherwise people won't listen to you... in fact they'll tend to react the opposite way just to spite you
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Sorry about that Darth- I realized it after Jim posted that....I wouldnt say I get offended easily but I do find myself defending my position an awful lot- especially these days. It's hard to speak "against" America and still be thought of as patriotic. My brother-in-law always tells me that I am the cause of shit like this. That "liberals" or as he likes to say "commies" are the reason why we got attacked in the first place. Actually I say its because of scum sucking capitalist greed that we were attacked. But no one listens.
After I wrote that last post I went home and thought about it. I was thinking that it's easy for people to say that they are patriotic and then give up all their basic rights and beat down people who try and uphold them. I was thinking that at my age (almost 24) there are very few people who truly, honestly understand what their place in society is, who understand the Constitution and what it stands for, and most importantly why we need to stand up for it. It occured to me that all people really care about is themselves and the more I thought about it the more sad I became. I don't want to live in a World like that, I don't want my children to live in a World like that.
Apathy breeds ignorance. And, in spite of what people say, ignorance is not bliss. It's high time we start looking at each other and supporting each other instead of beating down every Tom, Dick and Jane that disagrees with us. The World can only be a better place if we make it a better place.
I know I am an idealist. But in a lot of ways I am also a realist. I know realize that as long as America is the super power of the World- The World will never change.
Edited by Chrissy on Jan. 01 1970,01:00
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Chrissy
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Posted on: Jul. 14 2002,23:39 |
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and p.s CK just a question
Is everyone who disagrees with you an idiot or a moron or something equally offensive? Just wondering because I will learn to ignore you from now on unless you can argue with a point someone has made instead of attacking them for making it.
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Beastie Dr
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Posted on: Jul. 15 2002,00:27 |
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| Quote (Chrissy @ 14 July 2002,17:39) | | Is everyone who disagrees with you an idiot or a moron or something equally offensive? Just wondering because I will learn to ignore you from now on unless you can argue with a point someone has made instead of attacking them for making it. |
You have been here a very long time. You should learn by now that nobody else has any valid points, and he will ignore any evidence that disproves his. I'd say ignore him, but I'm certainly having more fun flaming him.
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CatKnight
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Posted on: Jul. 15 2002,05:29 |
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I called you an idiot because your post is full of passion and emotion but there was apparantly zero thinking involved.
| Quote | | Actually I say its because of scum sucking capitalist greed that we were attacked. But no one listens. |
I hate to dissappoint you, but all of the september 11th hijackers were wealthy relatives/friends of the saudi royal family. usama bin laden himself is a multi-millionarre. No one listens because you are wrong.
| Quote | | I was thinking that at my age (almost 24) there are very few people who truly, honestly understand what their place in society is |
and I guess it's your job to tell every single person what their place should be, right?
| Quote | | Its my right, nay my duty as an American to question the politics and erosion of our civil liberties in this country. |
we have more civil rights and liberties then we have ever had before in the history of the country. what erosion are you talking about?
| Quote | | I know realize that as long as America is the super power of the World- The World will never change. |
I pray, for everyone here, that it never does. I wonder, chrissy, what in the world would you want to change?
rather, what changes would you like to force upon people of the world?
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Posted on: Jul. 15 2002,05:52 |
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Detnet Forums are the best.
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Chrissy
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Posted on: Jul. 18 2002,22:53 |
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| Quote (CatKnight @ 14 July 2002,21:29) | I pray, for everyone here, that it never does. I wonder, chrissy, what in the world would you want to change?
rather, what changes would you like to force upon people of the world? |
CK, I don't want to force people to do anything. But what changes would I like to see happen?
Well for starters I'd like to see equality in the workforce. I'd like to see the end to racial profiling and racisim generally. I would like to see the world work together instead of against each other. I'd like to see the jobless get jobs, the homeless get homes, the under on uneducated get educated.
Listen, the status quo only works for 15%(more like 10%actually but I'll be generous) of the United States and even less than that in countries like Saudi Arabia and Afganistan. The world sucks for people who don't have money or who don't own land or have assests to the roof.
I'm saying- I know my life is a priviledged life. My college and law school education was not a right...I was lucky enough to have parents who had the money to send me to college and to law school. But because I was privileged in my life does not mean I need to see here and preserve it. I don't want to. I want to see the world be a better place, not the disaster it is now.
So CK, I wonder. Would you be singing the praises of society if you were ill-fortuned. If you mother was on welfare and you lived in ghetto? Do you think you would sit here and shout from the roof tops how great America is if everyday you saw your family starving from the raping of your country?
The problem with conservatives is that they never put themselves in anyone elses place. They just think "It aint me, let it be." Thinking like that keeps the country and this world just the way it is. And it makes me sad.
So maybe you and I will never see eye to eye on this CK and maybe you are happy with the way things are. But until this system stops working for you-- you won't sing another tune. And I hope for your sake that you never have to experience anything as trumatic as being homeless or unemployed because then you might have to bite your tongue and swallow your pride and admit maybe the world isnt such a great place.
Edited by Chrissy on Jan. 01 1970,01:00
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I have a right as an American to fucking complain and to attempt to change things if I don’t like them, deal with it. That is my fucking right as an AMERICAN, love it or leave it what kind of bull shit is that, that’s logically abused. Say I go into a restaurant and order food and I don’t enjoy that food but I love the restaurant so I continue to stay and do nothing about my shity food because I love the restaurant. That’s what love it or leave it basically means, no room for change or attempts at improvement. I agree about the English part, Americans need to speak one language if we are going to be one people, but we do not have to be culturally dogmatic. Saying America is perfect and needs no change is stupid and obviously not true, if you believe in change you have got to go in the love or leave it philosophy.
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America is a melting pot. We assimilate to new cultures, and they assimilate to us. Its a two way street.
Some things should be non-negotable though. Driver's licences need to have an indentifiable picture on them. People here need to speak the fucking language. This is common fucking sense, not a patriotism issue.
As far as god in schools...... if "in god we trust" is good enough for every piece of currency coined/printed, its good enough for little Timmy/Jose/Pherake/Hassim. Just another excuse for athiest liberal extremests to get airtime on CNN.
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Posted on: Jul. 19 2002,01:12 |
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/you will be assimilated/
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Darth Liberus
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Posted on: Jul. 19 2002,02:25 |
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| Quote (Chrissy @ 14 July 2002,15:33) | | Sorry about that Darth- I realized it after Jim posted that....I wouldnt say I get offended easily but I do find myself defending my position an awful lot- especially these days. It's hard to speak "against" America and still be thought of as patriotic. My brother-in-law always tells me that I am the cause of shit like this. That "liberals" or as he likes to say "commies" are the reason why we got attacked in the first place. Actually I say its because of scum sucking capitalist greed that we were attacked. But no one listens. |
no problem, Chrissy. I know exactly what you mean... the mood in this country is not especially tolerant right now.
The only bumper sticker on my car reads IF THERE IS A DEVIL, HE VOTES REPUBLICAN. Since 9/11 I've had SEVERAL people get out of their cars at a stoplight and invite me to get my pussyboy faggot liberal communist ass out and FIGHT LIKE A MAN... which inevitably makes me burst out laughing, which just makes them more upset, which makes me laugh harder... one guy got so mad that he punched a dent in HIS car as I drove off!
Point being that in any population, there is always a group of extremelly stupid people who try to solve everything with belligerance and violence 'cause they're not bright enough to solve things with their minds.
(No, my conservative fellow members, I'm not talking about you. If you're bright enough to work a computer you're plenty smart in my book.)
As for why we got attacked... it's not because of capitalist greed. I'd guess that it's a combination of jealousy and propaganda. The people who flew the planes were the same kind of guys who jump out and challenge me at stoplights; their leaders are criminals who rape and pillage their own countries and need to divert attention from their actions.
The easiest way to do that is to blame someone else for the problems YOU created...
Remember, Chrissy - there ARE good, bright conservatives out there, but we liberals will always have the upper hand when it comes to our collective IQ 
Edited by Darth Liberus on Jan. 01 1970,01:00
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