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veistran 
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Posted on: Jun. 12 2002,10:00 |
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I feel glad I didn't get very involved in this thread.
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Bozeman
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Posted on: Jun. 12 2002,15:41 |
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Hey Wiley, did you get your $5 from CK yet?
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WillyPete
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Posted on: Jun. 12 2002,17:49 |
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I DEFINITELY go in late on this one and although I don't have any argument to offer to either side of this case regarding US schooling, I have noticed that a lot of western schools aren't doing their job.
It was previously brought up that kids are mainly being taught to pass tests and not to learn.
You can see how this has been ingrained in our culture by just sitting in ONE university class. I lost count of how many times I'd hear, "Is this going to be in the exam?" followed by furious scratching out of notes taken if the lecturer were to answer to the negative.
All we're concerned about is meeting the minimum to get what we want and not to explore and expand our knowledge.
And then you get this shit:
http://www.arizonarepublic.com/news/articles/0610sunrisegrad10.html
(Student threatens to sue because she was failing)
The most important thing I think we're missing teaching kids is responsibility for their actions.
When they leave school and get jobs, these kids think they're OWED money or work.
At school, nothing is done when they abuse staff or property, cheat or steal. Abuse of other students is common and drug abuse isn't punished as much either.
Try any of that shit in the work place and you get your pink slip instead of a diploma. Drug use doesn't receive counseling, you get fired.
TEACH THESE LITTLE SHITS ABOUT THE REAL WORLD for godssakes!
In the UK they're trying to get kids to stay in school by giving them an allowance of about £40 a week. A good plan, now if they up the standard required, it will be better value for their money.
/end rant
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Bozeman
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Posted on: Jun. 12 2002,18:36 |
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I don't know if PAYING students to go to school is the right message to send. How much is 40 Pounds in United States Dollars?
I totally agree about the whole college situation. "Is this going to be on the test?" I hear that a lot.
I read the article you posted, that girl deserved to fail, in my opinion. She had a chance to attend a make up paper-writing session, but didn't even show. Good article to be brought to this thread, WillyPete!
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veistran
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Posted on: Jun. 12 2002,19:49 |
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it hangs around $1.40 to $1.50 to the pound.
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CatKnight
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Posted on: Jun. 12 2002,21:38 |
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hey boze, the $5 is still up for grabs, as no one has answered the question yet.
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TheTaxMan
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Posted on: Jun. 12 2002,22:56 |
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Wiley beat you CK. ILS is outperformed by NASA in at least one respect. You didn't define anything as "outperforming" so...
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CatKnight
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Posted on: Jun. 12 2002,23:00 |
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i said somewhere that "recieving more money does not constitute outperforming".
and the phrase "in one respect" is meaningless because I could counter that NASA has had so many accidents that they are far inferior to modern day pivate launching companies.
btw I never responded to the statement "And are you saying that no private company has ever put a rocket into space?" because that was not the question. wiley somehow fooled himself into thinking that it was, that is why he hasn't won $5 yet.
Edited by CatKnight on Jan. 01 1970,01:00
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TheTaxMan
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Posted on: Jun. 13 2002,00:31 |
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Summary of previous post:
Define the values of "outperformance."
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CatKnight
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Posted on: Jun. 13 2002,00:39 |
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some examples of out performing a private company: getting more/better results with LESS money (remember cr0bar's old editorial on the voodoo 5?), higher efficiency, driving a private company out of buisness by competitive means (NOT regulation or monopolozing), etc.
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