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L33T_h4x0r_d00d 
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2002,15:37 |
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| Quote (jim @ 23 July 2002,06:32) | | GM(Period) Specifically GMC and Hummer. You won't catch me driving anything else. Period. |
Im with Jim. Im not saying theyre perfect, just the lesser of all the evils. Plus its what I was brought up on.
Ford has extensive head gasket problems with their 93-98 cars, especially the 3.8 v6. They're automatic transmission is run by BELTS instead of hydrolic fluid, ecu programming that makes "find the wumpum" look like shuttle launching code, and who can forget that whole bridgestone suv flipping over and killing people thing. Almost all of thier trucks drive like cars, which is ok if you dont actually use it as a work truck. If you do you better have a f250 or 350.
Now they get credit for the engineering and ingenuity. They have some of the strongest rear ends available. The ford 9" is a monster. They were the first of the big 3 to go to Dohc in thier muscle car. Now whether it works well or not is to be seen. Its getting there but not as perfected as pushrod.
Mopar has not made a decent transmission since the torque-flite in the old hemi days. Talk to 1/3 of all durango owners and 1/2 of all avenger/sebring owners and they'll tell you how it wont go into or out of first gear. The whole bottom half of their car line has engines built by mitsubishi... we wont get into that but its not the best for reliability. Their trucks are stout, and mostly reliable. Not the best on fuel economy but if your buying a 1 ton truck you probably dont care much about that.
Mopar gets props for slapping 2 extra cylinders on thier sports car. The only of the big 3 with a 10 cylinder. Its a monster engine but will grenade itself at will. At willow springs track in cali vipers hold the lap record for speed on 1 lap, none of the 3 cars that set that time finished 3 laps. All had mechanical failures. The next closest time for a viper to actually finish 3 laps is number 36th.
Gm has had close to the same designs save the body work for close to 50 some years. They have made no major changes besides the aspiration and looks of their line. They still use a pushrod engine in thier trucks and sports cars. Its very reliable at the cost of some performance. I had 435,000 miles on my camaro before I swapped the engine. Dont let anyone tell you american cars as a whole are unreliable. Now they did make some bad decisions with the saddle mounted fuel tanks from the late 70s early 80s and if you have a truck with thier vortec engine you should definatly get rid of it by 50,000 miles. The fuel injection system on the vortec's has what we will call "issues". But I have a 91 S10 that on more occasions than I have fingers, toes and other extraneous body parts had all 4 wheels off the ground. I have put some of the hardest 100,000 miles on and the only repairs needed so far have been replacement grilles, but usually that was due to me hitting something. The chevrolet tahoes and GMC line of trucks still cease to amaze me with the durability and usability they provide. They fit somewhere between fords sedan like comfort and dodges "Im a fucking truck and Ill bounce the shit out of you if I feel like it" yet they still perform like an all out work truck.
Anyway enough ramblings. Your best bet is to talk to owners and take a look at the nhtsa and alldata recalls and complaints.
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ic0n0
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2002,19:33 |
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Neophyre
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Posted on: Jul. 24 2002,07:49 |
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have you guys over in the US seen the Monaro? i think one of your manufacturers has a deal with Holden australia to produce it under their badge.
damn sexy and powerful in my opinion :D
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joelthegreat
It's peanut butter jelly time!
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Posted on: Jul. 24 2002,10:29 |
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Hummer's are good...at least the original. Fuck the H2 (flips bird in Jim's direction)
GO SCHWINN! 
AND WHY THE FUCK WON'T IT LET ME VOTE!!! DAMN IT! 
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BlackFlag
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Posted on: Jul. 24 2002,11:20 |
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Ford.
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ShakerMaker
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Posted on: Jul. 24 2002,12:11 |
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| Quote (Neophyre @ 23 July 2002,23:49) | have you guys over in the US seen the Monaro? i think one of your manufacturers has a deal with Holden australia to produce it under their badge.
damn sexy and powerful in my opinion  |
GM would be importing it and re-tooling it for the US market. Who needs a truck when you can have a Monaro!
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jim
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Posted on: Jul. 24 2002,14:24 |
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| Quote (joelthegreat @ 23 July 2002,20:29) | Hummer's are good...at least the original. Fuck the H2 (flips bird in Jim's direction)
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Name me one vehicle in it's class an price range that can go toe to toe with the Hummer H2 and you win.
Otherwise, you are just a dumb fuck.
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L33T_h4x0r_d00d
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Posted on: Jul. 24 2002,15:52 |
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| Quote (jim @ 24 July 2002,06:24) | | Name me one vehicle in it's class an price range that can go toe to toe with the Hummer H2 and you win. |
Alright Jim, I like hummer and all but do you really need to climb a 60* incline or offroad enough to require that nasty of a suspension. Im willing to bet the only real offroading you do is driving to the store for milk when it snows, which is once ever 10 years since you live in texas.
Now if you must have something that can pull better numbers than your hummer for what ever bigger dick contest you're in with your neighbor get one of these. They surpass the hummers abilities by far.
Edit: Much cheaper too.
Edited by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on Jan. 01 1970,01:00
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Crafty Butcher
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there is only the Land Rover. all other jeeps/all-terrain type shit are just poor copies with spoilers. i went up an mountain in italy in one once. when we eventually crawled our way to the strange camp site perched on top we were surrounded by the inhabitants cheering and laughing. which was odd. turns out we were the first vehicle to make it up the track for over 30 yrs. everyone else used the cable car on the far side of the mountain. the last vehicle to make the trip was still there and was used for driving down as far as the treeline to collect firewood. it was also a Land Rover. they let us stay for free. Land Rovers rule.
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joelthegreat
It's peanut butter jelly time!
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Posted on: Jul. 24 2002,16:18 |
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| Quote (jim @ 24 July 2002,08:24) | Name me one vehicle in it's class an price range that can go toe to toe with the Hummer H2 and you win.
Otherwise, you are just a dumb fuck. |
I do not and will not name any vehicle in that price range that can go toe to toe like you said. Because you know and I know there isn't such a thing. The hummer is basically it's own vehicle class IMO. I don't beleive it to be a truck, jeep, suv, and it isn't a roadster for sure.
And who are you calling a dumb fuck? (wow, I'm up to 200 posts and now people start to learn...he he he) I mean look at you. You live in Texas to start with (that's -20 points in my book), and you buy into consumer fad's. The SUV fad, which Hummer is going to try to milk along with the H2.
My point is mute, which is what I wish I could do to my t.v. stupid remote. I will 0wn j00!
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