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Michael 
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Posted on: Jan. 09 2001,03:49 |
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I would much rather be judged based on who I may some day become than who I am now. Right now, I am just a college student, working through a variety of relationships that I wish had come out better, living at the expense of my parents, working at summer jobs which, although interesting, aren't exactly making a huge difference in the world. But some day I'd like to be living on my own, hopefully married and with a family, doing work that really means something. Who I am now is nothing compared to who I will hopefully become some day. And the same is probably true for most of you.Thae same is also true for a fetus. What's the real difference? The whole idea of living organisms is that they grow. They develop. They change over time. We are all still growing, just as the fetus is, for the simple fact that we are all alive. I used to be phyically dependent on your parents. Now I am only financially dependent on them. One day I will be financially independent too. Life is a continuum. There are certainly some points that you can plot on that continuum (birth, graduation, whatever) but besides the two end points at conception and death, those points are all arbitrary.
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PersonGuy
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Posted on: Jan. 10 2001,00:19 |
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quote:
Originally posted by fatbitch:
so you agree with me now personguy?
WARNING: DON'T TAKE TOO SERIOUSLY I DON'T base virginity on that... remember the "points system?" My point is that if bible-thumpers can draw a very precise line THERE, then why is it such a gray area with abortion? I'm not trying to discuss the morality here. Whether it's RIGHT or WRONG or HUMANE or whatever... for the better of society not all pregnant women NEED to have children... not ALL babies NEED to become adults... and not ALL adults NEED to live to senior hood! If I truely had it my way, retarted children would be put down, the death penalty would be used ALOT more, terminal patients would be removed from hospitals, and seniors with no perpose or will to live would be put down. It sounds cruel, but nature has always shown that a survial of the fittest system has always been most benifitial. Humans have reached a point of DEevloution, and that frightens me. I'm getting off topic here, but my point is basically that alot of people died in wars saying that they would lay down their life for what they belived in. I would be HAPPY to die if it meant a greater benifit for everone else. HERE'S THE POINT: all of the above odviously social unacceptable... so abortion is a nice start. ------------------
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diusFrenzy
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Posted on: Jan. 10 2001,02:03 |
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Michael:
The difference is that a fetus has no personality, no conscious, no thought, and is nothing more than a simple (relatively) biological construct. What's the difference between a fetus and a sperm? If potential life is what's really important, then surely we have to kill every male who's ever masturbated as they've commited mass murder on an unprecidented scale! In fact, every time you have sex, even if you impregnate the female, you're still brutually and shamelessly slaughtering millions of potential lives. If killing a fetus is to be equated with murder then surely killing sperm (or eggs) must also be murder. In fact, killing primitive sea algae is also brutual homicide since after all, that sea algae has the potential to one day evolve into a human being. How far back do you want to go?PersonGuy:
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If I truely had it my way, retarted children would be put down, the death penalty would be used ALOT more, terminal patients would be removed from hospitals, and seniors with no perpose or will to live would be put down
don't you think that sounds a little super-utopian. Akin to Hitler's master race?
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Sithiee
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Posted on: Jan. 10 2001,08:29 |
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kuru, grab, twist, and pull really hard until they shut up.
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