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the thing is the universe is at risk of ending up as pure energy which is also kind of ok but still weird. im ean everything existing just as radiation crazy.gif

i find islam the most fucked up really all the others are relitively ok but islam is still stuck in the stonage

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Darth is right (of course) Bhuddism does sell it itself. Who the hell wouldn't wanna be in such a relaxed and peaceful atmosphere that bhuddists exude.

I'm seriously thinking of switching to Bhuddism.  yin-yang.gif

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Quote (Darth Liberus @ 11 July 2002,18:42)

GET IN MAH BELLAY!

sorry ... Austin Powers marathon on TV a few days back ... Frenchies are still quoting it.  Amazing how much of that hullaballoo they remember ... maybe it's because they watched both a second time after I left ...

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Buddhism is remarkably intact after so long, but I'm not one.
Respect.

Honestly ask whatever God is to make His (its) presence
known to you on an occasion and it will happen.

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Being a Christian myself, i've gotta throw my two cents in. There are some types of Christian that just break me out in hives.

1.) "Hippie Christians" - Always happy, only emotion they have. Seem stoned, but they'd never toke up.

2.) "Popular Christians" - Always pushing pop Christian music, always talking about Christianity and how it makes them so euphoric. They buy into the culture this thread mentions so often in a big way.

3.) "Not-Quite Christians" - People who think the fact that they can say "Oh, MY god" is an excuse to wear a crucifix necklace, which is what they were after in the first place.

4.) "Bigot Christians" - Out to flaunt their beliefs in some manifestation of their little-big man complex, they pick fights with anyone possible just to talk about their own religion.

-and the ones I loathe most, and possibly the most internally dangerous-

5.) "Creative Christians" - Think that they need to 'renovate' worship services with new music and worship norms. Big into pop Christian culture, they see the need to paste a fluffy, perfect Christianity everywhere. Most often fit into 1 or 2 as well.

  Yes, there are people in my own church I just can't take. I don't think it's a bad thing that I dislike them; they seem fake and shallow, two of the worst characteristics possible in my book.

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M, can you forgive them their faults?

I ask this in all seriousness.

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Yes, I can. I mean, if I can't forgive them for acting as they do, who will forgive me for being a grouch on bad days, eh?

The thing that gets me is that I feel their conduct is the single greatest discouragement and ridicule that the church has. That's the main reason they get me: some of their behaviors seem to either speak ill of the church or present it in an unfavorable light - which in religion is worse than just a few company employees goofing off at Chili's. I mean, the Church is an outreach organization, and we want people to be open to the idea of visiting.

That, and I think that the people who are trying to remake worship services are hurting the church badly: A lot of churches are splitting nowadays, and I think this is because the changes bother the more conservative people, who see church in the old-fashioned way and would rather just discontinue their attendance and go somewhere else without raising a fuss. Thus a vocal minority causes most of the congregation to leave. But that's my theory which could be wrong, so I give them the benefit of the doubt. It's definitely a symptom of whatever's happening.

But as for forgiving, yes, I can. Heck, some things I do would probably grate on them something awful too.

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Your last sentence is what I was looking for.

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Marauder, totally agree with you there.  Churches are filled with a few good, but a hell of a lot of the crazy ones that you listed.

I don't go to church anymore.  If I do, I'll just lose whatever I have left of my faith - which isn't exactly robust right now.  Church just has a bad tendency of driving me away - mostly the fake and shallowness of a lot of people there.  

I don't claim to be perfect and living the "ideal", but at least I don't have my head stuck in the clouds or listen to (brainwashing?) christian music and nothing else.  I don't have a narrow perspective/mind - I may not agree with a few things some of my friends do, but I don't preach or damn them to hell.

I like to go out and have fun.  I go to clubs and enjoy dancing with friends.  I don't want to stay indoors listening to some guy play the guitar, listen to off-key singing, read songs (that have lost their meaning thru repetition) off the projector screen.  I don't want to be assaulted with emails/phone calls when I don't show up one sunday.  I don't want to be a freakin'  shaun.gif

It's the way you live your life, not how many church bake sales you attend or how many bibles you have shoved up/down a random orifice of an "unbeliever".

Oh yea, and there's the group that take the bible word for word, can't apply it to their life, and seek to saturate their lives/homes/minds with christianity and christianity alone, won't listen to your problems but are only interested in your soul, always say "just pray about it" ... probably just a mix of a few of the groups listed.

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The only thing that turns me off to Christianity more than Christians is the Christian God.

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