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[hitler] was just as sick as bush,

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bullshit, right off the bat.

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but he wouldn't have touched Denmark.

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bullshit. he would have taken over and killed all the non-whites/jews as soon as he had the chance if it weren't for us and russia.

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We just let him through

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thanks i really appreciate you're apathy in contributing to letting 6 million jews be slaughtered. you're almost as bad as t he french.

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When you came the war had already been moved into checkmate.

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bullshit. check your history books. ever hear of lend-lease? if it weren't for us entering in 1941 (2 years after it started) britain and the french resistance would have been fucked up the ass.

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We want Clinton back. He was one of your great presidents,

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he didn't do anything particularly special, he just didn't happen to fuck up as badly. oh well maybe you are right on this one

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That he used some Monica girl for fun obviously meant that he didn't have to use China and Alaska

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what the fuck? that made no sense.

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We don't need you catknight.

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if you want clean electricity for more then 2 people you will

by the way, i voted for bush too, and i'm glad because gore would have made the exact same mistakes and would have been ridiculed just as much, and he's a liberal. he woulda fucked our energy situation even more.

This message has been edited by CatKnight on May 18, 2001 at 12:03 PM

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Originally posted by Kolben:
Actually you should feel lucky that China didn't kill your spy-pilots and fire their big guns at you. They actually had the right to do that, looking in the treaties all over

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Um, how did you come up with THAT bit of nonsense??

Our plane was in International Airspace. That means it was allowed to be there. A Chinese fighter, whose pilot was infamous for doing these sorts of stupid things, collided with the US plane. We didn't hit him, he hit us.

I believe that the actual facts are that if a plane is in trouble, it is allowed, by international agreements, to land on any airstrip that it can get to.

We did not "posture"--we stood up for our rights. The "apology" letter sent was the right thing to do, and allowed both countries to have their own interpretations, thus satisfying China and the US. The situation was not handled poorly.

And as for Clinton--he was an embarrasment to the United States. Time and time again he lied to us, stole from us, and abused his power. Do you remember the entire pot issue? His words--"I never smoked pot. Well, I smoked, but I didn't inhale." That tells me a lot, right there:

--What's the first thing he did? Lie.
--What's the second thing he did? Pose.

Who smokes pot but doesn't inhale? The fact that he did that means that he was doing ANYTHING to fit in, without actually taking a stance on it. His finger was chapped from licking it and holding it up to see which way the wind blew. He stood for nothing, and cared ONLY about his image.

Ugh, gotta stop rambling. Please, Kolben, look into the facts of some of these things and stop regurgitating the hyper-radical editorials and trying to pass them off as fact.

Thank you.

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I used to be a kleptomaniac, but then I took something for it.

thats all i have to say about ppl who can't accept that they suck as much as the next.

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first of all i was joking. now to put you back in your place for real.

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britain and the french resistance would have been fucked up the ass.

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he didn't do anything particularly special, he just didn't happen to fuck up as badly. oh well maybe you are right on this one

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by the way, i voted for bush too, and i'm glad because gore would have made the exact same mistakes and would have been ridiculed just as much, and he's a liberal. he woulda fucked our energy situation even more.

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I really didn't want to talk about 2WW, and still don't so please stop it. We discussed it once, and you got sooo mad, and I haven't been changing my oppinions

This message has been edited by Kolben on May 18, 2001 at 01:23 PM

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To resist him would be pointless. The guy had weapons up to his ears, and people to use them. The great army of Denmark was about 100.000 inexperienced soldiers. If we even tried to resist, he'd just run us over.

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ever hear of the french resistance? VIVA LA RESISTANCE!

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lol...you are funny. hitler send all of his troops to Russia.

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ever hear of the battle of britain? the constant air attacks on london? the v-1 and v-2's? the u-boats? the bismark? THE REST OF THE NAVY IN THE NORTH SEA? britain was completely blockaded for a while and was on the verge of surrender until we came in.

ok enough of this. you're wrong and i'm right. it's settled.

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Originally posted by askheaves:
We use more energy than the rest of the world, but we put it to good use. We have outstanding industry and infrastructure. It takes energy to run a nation. When it dries up, we get despirate and we panic.

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In Denmark we are hearing about heated outdoor swimmingpools. We are hearing about everybody has to have a car. Even 16 year old kids. We are hearing about the cars you drive, runs an average of 6 km/liter gasoline. We are hearing about so much airconditioning, that you have to have jackets on some places.

It takes energy to run a nation, but you aren't the only one actually. You have outstanding industry, but in my oppinion, you are just raping the environment, to have it.

pengu1nn I love you too. You are SOOOOOO cool!

everyone has a car here though because everythign is fucking far apart. its 25 miles to work for me, and 5 miles to the nearest shopping center. i imagine if you live in the country then you are self sufficient and if you live in the city then everything is close and you can ride a bikes or motorcycles places.

everyone has air conditioning here because the weather SUCKS. it's hot and humid as fuck, and i for one can't stand it. it's much cooler in most parts of europe. if you lived in a hot climate and had the resources to cool yourself off to be comfortable, then you would do it. as for the people wearing jackets because it's so cold, the only reason that might be is because some fat guy set the air conditioner way too low and everyone else is freezing. heh

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Originally posted by CatKnight:
[B] ever hear of the french resistance? VIVA LA RESISTANCE!

ever hear of the battle of britain? the constant air attacks on london? the v-1 and v-2's? the u-boats? the bismark? THE REST OF THE NAVY IN THE NORTH SEA? britain was completely blockaded for a while and was on the verge of surrender until we came in.
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Because i'm too lazy to re-quote, i'll answer sequentially.

Ever hear of suicide? The French had a pretty good defensive posture when WW2 started...too bad Hitler found a way to get panzers throught the Ardennes.

As for the Battle of Britian...V1s did jack. V2s did a little, but not much and weren't even as scary as V1s because they didn't make the same noise. The U-boats were hitting the convoys from America, so if you take America out of the equation, the U-boats did jack. The Bismarck also did jack besides sink the Hood. That was bad, yes, but hardly a crippling blow to the Royal Navy. Her sister ship didn't even get out of port.

Anyway, I couldn't stay out of putting in a little WW2 commentary. The point is that the US helped during WW2, but we did not win it. If we hadn't helped them, then we probably would've been wiped out too, just afterwards. In case you didn't know, Iowa class battleships had the same problem as the Hood -- crappy deck armor. You should realize that the US did not = the great savior in WW2, and America uses 40\% of the world's resources with 5\% of the world's population (i believe those are the numbers) Yes, we are resource hogs, and yes, it is bad. Anyone who argues that we AREN'T resource hogs, is an idiot.

And kick his ass for making Europe thinking bad things about you

Frosty. to whom should I address that check, again?

This message has been edited by Kolben on May 18, 2001 at 01:57 PM

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We did not "posture"--we stood up for our rights. [snip] The situation was not handled poorly.

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"Posture" is my own personal opinion on what we did. I disagreed with the way the situation was handled. Our version of International Airspace is not the world standard. But like I said, my personal opinion. :P

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And as for Clinton--he was an embarrasment

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Clinton didn't inhale, and Bush didn't used to drink too much, and that powder really didn't have any effect. We're all happy with our spoonfed information.

I just think its interesting to hear from Kolben because he's NOT American, and therefore has a different viewpoint. Even if its just his. I've heard similar from others in Europe.

Dont worry about defending Bush to me. I work with Dr, M, a gung-ho Republican who listens to Rush Limbaugh faithfully. I've heard it all. You should hear us discuss Bush.

But we can't blame it all on Bush. Lets not forget the 50\%+ Republican congress, haha.

So anyhoo...you can always get even by posting pictures of Fergie doing weight watchers ads.

oh, i kill me

xoxox