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Dysorderia 
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Quote (hannibal @ 03 June 2002,03 ) | | with ikon board the 'super admin' can see exactly which moderators do what. |
yes, but it doesn't log the ip of the person making said action
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kuru
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Yeah, sure, make CK an admin because he's complaining about posts that I never (or anyone else for that matter) deleted.
So then once he's an admin and he starts deleting even more posts and worse, banning all the people he would have called a douchebag, we can all see how brilliant that idea was.
Nobody deleted CK's posts but CK.
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editor
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Posted on: Jun. 03 2002,14:31 |
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DSL has removed all the admin rights from the moderators.
We'll figure it out.
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Bozeman
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| Quote (CatKnight @ 02 June 2002,02:02) | I'll just do these all in order.
1. corporations == people, what's the problem?
2. LIBERALS, duh!!
3. what economic policy prevents them from getting jobs?
4. PUBLIC SCHOOLS DONT NEED ANY MORE MONEY! On average, public schools recieve 5 to 10 times more funding then most private schools, which do much much better on standardized tests. Furthermore, the two cities' school's which recieve the most amount of money, Philly and DC, are also THE WORST schools in the country.
5. no one ever said anything about reverting back to racism or sexism
6. I don't know what you are referring to there.
7. that would be the UN actually, supported by the liberals.
8. that statement is wholly incorrect
9. a) the rich are richer because of the free market, the poor are poorer because of welfare. the rich don't take away from the poor, they GIVE to the poor (directly and indirectly).
b) prison population is so high directly because of liberal policies. there are many correlations to blacks, welfare, single parent families, and crime. there are none whatsoever to republicans. |
I'll just do these all in order.
1. Corporations != people, corporations are companies. They are run by a few people, who constantly take advantage of the masses. (yes there are some exceptions) Corporations pollute, rip off or lay off their workers, and rip off consumers, while lobbying congress with the money they got from you so they can do it even worse later.
2. Conservatives believe that putting up the 10 commandments would have stopped columbine, but not gun control laws. Watch The Awful Truth second season if you don't believe me.
3. REAGANOMICS!
4. Don't NEED money? Have you SEEN inner city schools? They have classes in hallways and bathrooms! Perhaps scores wouldn't be so low if they had the funding to teach properly.
5. Ah, good old 1960's... before the women and the blacks got all their "equal rights" which are still FAR from equal.... makes me so nostalgic.... Women (on average) don't get paid as much as men, and most blacks are working poor. And CK wants to go "back" to the 1960s instead of forward. You didn't NEED to say anything about racism or sexism.
6. Conservatives are all for allowing businesses to screw their workers. Don't believe me? Do some research. Check your local congressperson's voting record. The "pro buisness" anti-poor agenda isn't hard to find.
7. MMMM HHHMMMM..... That's why America saw the need to intervene in places like GRENADA, or NICARAGUA without UN support. Yeah it's all the LIBERALS....
8. Sure it's incorrect. After all, they didn't tell us that on Fox News, and they wouldn't hold anything back, would they? After all, theyr'e not the butt-puppet of the conservatives, right?
9. a) The Rich are richer because Reagan economic policies which were SUPPORTED by Clinton screwed the poor. The economic boom was the internet and a couple other things, and now it's busted. The poor didn't see a bit of that "economic boom", but the folks at ENRON sure did. Enron ripped off California and a whole bunch of other places, and it looks like theyr'e going to get away with it.
b) The prison population is so high because of CONSERVATIVE policies such as MANDATORY SENTENCING and JAIL TIME FOR NONVIOLENT DRUG OFFENDERS! Because Drugs happen a lot in the inner cities, where blacks are concentrated, Most of the drug convictions are black poor. It's apartheid, American style! Oh, and your'e overlooking CORPORATE CRIME for the republicans. There's a VERY high correlation between corporate crimnals and conservatives. Almost every corporate crimnal votes Republican! Look at Bosco industries, Jack Welch of General Electric (retired) and countless more.
*whok!* (tennis ball goes back to CK's court)
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chmod
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Posted on: Jun. 03 2002,16:12 |
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| Quote | | Corporations != people, corporations are companies. They are run by a few people, who constantly take advantage of the masses. |
Corporations == stockholders == people.
| Quote | | Corporations pollute |
Okay then, let's outlaw all pollution by corporations and see how long it takes for the economy to collapse because nothing can be produced, shall we?
| Quote | | rip off or lay off their workers |
That's why we have unions. And, if a worker is getting "ripped off" then he quits his job. It's in the best interest of the corporation to keep its workers satisfied-if a corporation screws over its workers, it's screwing over itself.
| Quote | | and rip off consumers |
That's why our economy works on a principle called competition. If the consumer is getting ripped off, he goes somewhere else. If there is no competition, well then thats where the anti trust laws come into play...
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demonk
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Posted on: Jun. 03 2002,17:36 |
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| Quote (chmod @ 03 June 2002,08:12) | |
| Quote | | Corporations == stockholders == people. |
Corporations are OWNED by people, but are run by a select few.
| Quote | | Okay then, let's outlaw all pollution by corporations and see how long it takes for the economy to collapse because nothing can be produced, shall we? |
Either way, it won't matter in 20-30 years when we have no ozon layer, no drinkable water, no top soil, and the oxygen level in the atomosphere has dropped to almost nothing.
| Quote | | That's why we have unions. And, if a worker is getting "ripped off" then he quits his job. It's in the best interest of the corporation to keep its workers satisfied-if a corporation screws over its workers, it's screwing over itself. |
And when the unions themselves aren't any better if not worse than the corporations they are supposed to be protecting the workers from? Then what? And what if a person can't quite their job because there is a recetion going on and he has more change of wining the lottery than finding another job?
| Quote | That's why our economy works on a principle called competition. If the consumer is getting ripped off, he goes somewhere else. If there is no competition, well then thats where the anti trust laws come into play...
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Then explain how the MPAA and RIAA are a good thing. Yes, when there is legitimate competition, the consumer wins. Just look at Intel and AMD. We are the winner of that show down. But when you get all the companies in an industry together much like the RIAA has, you stop being competitive. The consumer doesn't win. We get screwed and have no choice but to take it and ask for another.
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chmod
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Posted on: Jun. 03 2002,18:22 |
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| Quote | | And when the unions themselves aren't any better if not worse than the corporations they are supposed to be protecting the workers from? Then what? And what if a person can't quite their job because there is a recetion going on and he has more change of wining the lottery than finding another job? |
Well that's actually a pretty complicated issue... but my point is that workers aren't powerless against corporations.
And if it's a recession? People lose jobs, that's what a recession does! It sucks, but that's the way it is. The corporation can either lay off workers and try to rehabilitate itself, or go under completely and end up putting the whole company out of a job, which is even worse.
| Quote | But when you get all the companies in an industry together much like the RIAA has, you stop being competitive. The consumer doesn't win. We get screwed and have no choice but to take it and ask for another.
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Of course. Hence, my mention of anti-trust laws. That's what they're meant to protect us from.
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Wiley
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| Quote (Bozeman @ 03 June 2002,07:22) | 1. Corporations != people, corporations are companies. They are run by a few people, who constantly take advantage of the masses. (yes there are some exceptions) Corporations pollute, rip off or lay off their workers, and rip off consumers, while lobbying congress with the money they got from you so they can do it even worse later.
2. Conservatives believe that putting up the 10 commandments would have stopped columbine, but not gun control laws. Watch The Awful Truth second season if you don't believe me.
3. REAGANOMICS!
4. Don't NEED money? Have you SEEN inner city schools? They have classes in hallways and bathrooms! Perhaps scores wouldn't be so low if they had the funding to teach properly.
5. Ah, good old 1960's... before the women and the blacks got all their "equal rights" which are still FAR from equal.... makes me so nostalgic.... Women (on average) don't get paid as much as men, and most blacks are working poor. And CK wants to go "back" to the 1960s instead of forward. You didn't NEED to say anything about racism or sexism.
6. Conservatives are all for allowing businesses to screw their workers. Don't believe me? Do some research. Check your local congressperson's voting record. The "pro buisness" anti-poor agenda isn't hard to find.
7. MMMM HHHMMMM..... That's why America saw the need to intervene in places like GRENADA, or NICARAGUA without UN support. Yeah it's all the LIBERALS....
8. Sure it's incorrect. After all, they didn't tell us that on Fox News, and they wouldn't hold anything back, would they? After all, theyr'e not the butt-puppet of the conservatives, right?
9. a) The Rich are richer because Reagan economic policies which were SUPPORTED by Clinton screwed the poor. The economic boom was the internet and a couple other things, and now it's busted. The poor didn't see a bit of that "economic boom", but the folks at ENRON sure did. Enron ripped off California and a whole bunch of other places, and it looks like theyr'e going to get away with it.
b) The prison population is so high because of CONSERVATIVE policies such as MANDATORY SENTENCING and JAIL TIME FOR NONVIOLENT DRUG OFFENDERS! Because Drugs happen a lot in the inner cities, where blacks are concentrated, Most of the drug convictions are black poor. It's apartheid, American style! Oh, and your'e overlooking CORPORATE CRIME for the republicans. There's a VERY high correlation between corporate crimnals and conservatives. Almost every corporate crimnal votes Republican! Look at Bosco industries, Jack Welch of General Electric (retired) and countless more.
*whok!* (tennis ball goes back to CK's court) |
Sorry ...I gotta give my views on some of this.
1. Yes, they do all that ...but that's pretty much the point of a corporation to make a profit!! If you only charge what it cost you then you wouldn't make a profit, a good company will jack up the price as much as they can and the consumer will love them for it.
2. I think better parenting would be best of all.
3. I think the poor misunderstood "Trickle Down" as some guy will come to your door and just hand you money.
4. What school teaches class in a bathroom? I will personally donate money to that school if that is a valid statment.
5. No comment except Everbody Gets Paid What They Deserve ...if you think otherwise then site me a specific instance.
6. Yes this is true. When I hire somebody I try and low-ball them as much as possible. This again is in the best interest of the corporation. This is why there is a minimum wage, if there weren't I would hire people for a stick of gum. The problem I have is that some people actually better their self worth and a corporation can't screw them ...hmmm ...maybe some people should look into that.
7. I don't think we should send anybody anywhere ...it costs too much of my tax dollars.
8. Fox is not news ...it's a TV show ...it's entertainment for the retarded masses. If you want news then subscribe to a valid news wire service and get unbiased news.
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a. The Internet boom helped investors ...the poor could've made money if they invested, they just didn't think of it ...that's why they're poor.
b. How about if you want to stay out of jail then don't commit crime. How come it's always racist if police arrest ethnic minorities who are dealing crack ...how about you just don't deal crack ...and get you buddies to stop dealing crack ..eventually the police will leave you alone. As for corporate criminals being Republican is that really some kind of revelation? The corporation wouldn't be there if there were no Republicans ...it would be some kinda hippy co-op.
These are my opinions ...you are entitled to your own damn hippy welfare opinions as well
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veistran
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lol @ wiley, I can't figure out if he was being serious or not with that bit about corporate criminals, I mean he says it like it's some great revelation.
| Quote | | Either way, it won't matter in 20-30 years when we have no ozon layer, no drinkable water, no top soil, and the oxygen level in the atomosphere has dropped to almost nothing. |
Hi, chicken little. Now seriously, maybe you can back that statement up with some facts? What was that? You can't? Didn't think so. Don't post pure conjecture as if it were fact, please. IF what you were saying was so true, can you explain to me why none of our good _friends_ in the EU has ratified Kyoto even after they spent months complaining because GWB backed out until it was fixed? I can, it's a flawed piece of work, it sounds good on paper maybe, but it's an unworkable solution. It's like installing a screen door on a submarine. In short, it's targeting the wrong people, it's targeting the wrong pollutants, and it's completely unenforcable on the people it should be targeting.
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demonk
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EU ratifies Kyoto Treaty
Ball is back in your court now 
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