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Originally posted by RenegadeSnark:
If you have a problem with the average IQ around here, don't do things to lower it.

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simultaneity is not absolute. So just because you think i'm wrong, from my frame of reference i'm right!

We're tired of hearing 'kill em all' and 'nuke em'. It's not rational, it solves nothing and is essentially a waste of your energy and emotions.

As for atrocities committed by the US? Pick one. How about slavery? Yeah, I know it's gone now, but it was done. And you still see people with a grudge about it.

Taxman, as for Isreal being given to them for the second world war, the zionist process for an isreali nation state was in action before the war. A lot of jews fled there before Krystalnacht and before Hitler started his extermination campaign against them. Prominent British statesmen like Benjamin Disreali (jewish) were very influential in Britain relinquished the Palesinian protectorate to the Isrealis instead of the isrealis.
We just handed it to 'em. Granted, there's a bit more to it than that, some of the early isrealis actually carried out their own terror campaign to speed it up. Check it out for yourself. You have internet access. Note: this is just a correction post, not a 'you're wrong I'm right' thing. Made me realise I don't even know all of the facts properly.

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Originally posted by Jynx:
-- From what I have heard, a terrorist group usually has a motive behind the killing, and an ultimate goal that they are fighting towards. For example, the IRA was (is?) fighting towards a united Ireland. Because of this goal, it was possible for the British Government to negotiate with the heads of the IRA to attempt to form a treaty. Once the goal of the group is met, then in theory the terrorism will stop. There was [b]NO given reason for the attack on us, except for blind, unreasoning hate towards the U.S. The only perceived goal that I can see is the destruction of the U.S., and since that goal is unacceptable to us, we must take action to remove the source of that hatred, so that it cannot harm any more U.S. citizens.
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<nelson>HAHA</nelson>

You think blowing the fuck out of each other is striving for an united Ireland?

I think you'll find the people round the table are the ones striving for an united Ireland, not the ones planting carbombs, nailbombs, plastic explosives and blowing the fuck out of each other with Armalites. They're in it for the violence. You'll always get people like that.

EG. Recently one side wanted to walk through the others street to go to school. Some people jeered. Some others threw PIPEBOMBS. At women and children.

What's the point in having something united if everyone is dead?

These people are more along the lines of destroy a section of the population and take the island for ourselves.

They're nothing more than terrorists and we over here have to live with that every day*

So before you run your mouth off, take those US-funded blinkers off your eyes and smell the coffee.

* I don't live in NI or Eire, but I'm half-irish and have friends affected by all this shit.

Then your fucked up, capitalistic greed-motivated lifestyle has made you numb.

1. a missplaced/widespread assault on terrorism that doesn't get the terrorists,

2. no action at all, or

3. surgical strikes that get most of the terrorist organizations around the world without much loss of civilian human life?

I say: most likely 1, somewhat likely 2, and least likely 3. Thus I am supportive of finding a way to do number 3 as a means of combatting terrorism. I don't think this should be a kneejerk reaction, but I still think that we should blow the fuckers off the face of the earth who did this, and any other terrorist action in the past, and any people or government that supported them.

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Old farts never die, they just get blown away.