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                    | Beldurin  Mayor of Detnet
 
  
 
 
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                                |  | Posted on: Apr. 28 2002,08:50 |  |      |  Was listening to some Henry Rollins Spoken Word while driving back from Chicago late one night and came across this particular track.  It really struck a chord with me from some experiences in my past.  For those of you who haven't heard it, I'd recommend it.  And pardon my presumptuousness, but I think a few other detnetters can probably relate as well.
 
 Henry Rollins -  I know you
 I know you
 You were too short
 You had bad skin
 You couldn't talk to them very well
 Words didn't seem to work
 They lied when they came out of your mouth
 
 You tried so hard to understand them
 You wanted to be part of what was happening
 You saw them having fun
 And it seemed like such a mystery
 Almost magic
 
 Made you think that there was something wrong with you
 You'd look in the mirror and try to find it
 You thought that you were ugly
 And that everyone was looking at you
 
 So you learned to be invisible
 To look down
 To avoid conversation
 
 The hours, days, weekends
 Ah, the weekend nights alone
 Where were you?
 In the basement?
 In the attic?
 In your room?
 Working some job - just to have something to do.
 Just to have a place to put yourself
 Just to have a way to get away from them
 A chance to get away from the ones that made you feel
 so strange and ill at ease inside yourself
 
 Did you ever get invited to one of their parties?
 You sat and wondered if you would go or not
 For hours you imagined the scenarios that might transpire
 They would laugh at you
 If you would know what to do
 If you'd have the right things on
 If they would notice that you came from a different planet
 
 Did you get all brave in your thoughts?
 Like you going to be able to go in there and deal with it
 and have a great time.
 Did you think that you might be the life of the party?
 That all these people were gonna talk to you and you
 would find out that you were wrong?
 That you had a lot of friends and you weren't so
 strange after all?
 
 Did you end up going?
 Did they mess with you?
 Did they single you out?
 Did you find out that you were invited because they
 thought you were so weird?
 
 Yeah, I think I know you
 You spent a lot of time full of hate
 A hate that was pure sunshine
 A hate that saw for miles
 A hate that kept you up at night
 A hate that filled your every waking moment
 A hate that carried you for a long time
 
 Yes, I think I know you
 You couldn't figure out what they saw in the way they lived
 
 Home was not home
 Your room was home
 A corner was home
 The place they weren't, that was home
 
 I know you
 
 You're sensitive and you hide it because you fear
 getting stepped on one more time
 It seems that when you show a part of yourself that is
 the least bit vulnerable someone takes advantage of you
 One of them steps on you
 
 They mistake kindliness for weakness
 But you know the difference
 You've been the brunt of their weakness for years
 And strength is something you know a bit about because
 you had to be strong to keep yourself alive
 
 You know yourself very well now
 And you don't trust people
 You know them too well
 
 You try to find that special person
 Someone you can be with
 Someone you can touch
 Someone you can talk to
 Someone you don't feel so strange around
 And you find that they don't really exist
 You feel closer to people on movie screens
 
 Yeah, I think I know you
 You spend a lot of time daydreaming
 And people have made comment to that effect
 Telling you that you're self involved, and self centred
 
 But they don't know, do they?
 About the long night shifts alone
 About the years of keeping yourself company
 All the nights you wrapped your arms around yourself
 so you could imagine someone holding you
 The hours of indecision, self doubt
 The intense depression
 The blinding hate
 The rage that made you stagger
 The devastation of rejection
 
 Well, maybe they do know
 But if they do, they sure do a good job of hiding it
 It astounds you how they can be so smooth
 How they seem to pass through life as if life itself
 was some divine gift
 And it infuriates you to watch yourself with your
 apparent skill at finding every way possible to screw it up
 
 For you life is a long trip
 Terrifying and wonderful
 Birds sing to you at night
 The rain and the sun the changing seasons are true friends
 Solitude is a hard won ally, faithful and patient
 
 Yeah, I think I know you
 
 
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 You haven't solved anything.
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                    | BlackFlag  Objections noted; Notes discarded.
 
  
 
 
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                                |  | Posted on: Apr. 28 2002,12:02 |  |        |  i can definately relate to that.  scary really.
 
 I highly recomend the book "The Portable Henry Rollins."
 
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                    | ic0n0  I have become Death, Destroyer of Worlds
 
  
 
 
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                                |  | Posted on: Apr. 28 2002,14:36 |  |        |  I can relate to that also, some parts are to close to my personal experience for comfort.
 
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                    | smartsnake  fol ol de ol rol im a troll
 
  
 
 
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                                |  | Posted on: Apr. 28 2002,15:17 |  |        |  Yea that sounds pretty close to life as I know it.
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                    | 1LT  Unplug Grandma
 
  
 
 
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                                |  | Posted on: Apr. 28 2002,16:21 |  |        |  For those who may want to hear it, It's either at the end of "The Boxed Life" or "Live at McCabe's". Good stuff.
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                    | Beldurin  Mayor of Detnet
 
  
 
 
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                                |  | Posted on: Apr. 28 2002,17:13 |  |        |  
 | Quote (1LT @ 28 April 2002,10:21) |  | For those who may want to hear it, It's either at the end of "The Boxed Life" or "Live at McCabe's". Good stuff. | 
 It's on Boxed Life
 
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                    | CatKnight  Jedi Republican
 
  
 
 
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                                |  | Posted on: Apr. 28 2002,21:43 |  |        |  meh that nonsense is just like fortune telling and zodiac crap. it's extremely general and can relate to freakin anyone.
 
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                    | Beldurin  Mayor of Detnet
 
  
 
 
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                                |  | Posted on: Apr. 28 2002,22:02 |  |        |  
 | Quote (CatKnight @ 28 April 2002,15:43) |  | meh that nonsense is just like fortune telling and zodiac crap. it's extremely general and can relate to freakin anyone. | 
 The purpose of art is to evoke an emotional reaction in the audience, to find some sort of commonality between the artist and the viewer.  That's why this is effective, because people can relate.  If you can't, that's fine, but for some people, this is how things are or were.
 
 Stop being a jackass for just a little while, ok?  Look at the previous posts.  Some people thought it was valid and identify with it.  If you don't identify or agree, then don't post.
 
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 You haven't solved anything.
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                    | editor  forum whore
 
  
 
 
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                                |  | Posted on: Apr. 28 2002,23:19 |  |        |  Most of astrology seems to be BS, however the descriptions of the 12 personality traits are most interesting.
 
 I can sometimes peg someone's sign by what they say or how they look!
 
 As far as fortune telling, I charge 50$ for Tarot readings, and I get it.
 
 I spent a long time considering why people either think all that is BS and why some are positive it works; seems to me that it works if you think it does.
 
 It doesn't work if you're skeptical.
 
 
 BTW, the Miss Cleo we see on American TV is a scam, but not the one you're thinking of.  She is a real psychic, and she doesn't need cards at all.  She uses them to put people at ease, since just telling them stuff out of thin air is too startling.
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                    | Nikita  Princess of Darkness       Spy. Assassin. Seductress.
 
  
 
 
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                                |  | Posted on: Apr. 29 2002,00:56 |  |      |  hey you know how to read those cards too? What deck do you use?
   
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