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Kayy 
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Posted on: Jun. 22 2000,05:53 |
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I'm going to look at this in such a way that nobody has even bothered to as yet on these forums. A lot of people have raised question of populating other planets and making them habitable.Nobody so far has looked at the masses and masses of sea that has room for over 4 times the current population of this planet as it stands now. Creating underwater habitats would be less expensive, and wouldnt need fossil fuels to power, as it would be surrounded by constantly moving currents - meaning hydroelectric power would never run out - thus making it near impossible to be without power. I see on the news every few months about plans to populate space-stations and other planets, and the terraforming of other planets, yet over 65\% of our planet lays underwater, and un-explored. I see nothing on the news about that. As for the birth control methods, that may work, but how do you expect to get every country in the world to instigate it into law so that everyones population count drops. Then take into account the 6.3 billion people that currently populate the world that could still reproduce without the need of the certificate or liscence.
Your solution there is of no use, because those 6.3 billion will still continue reproducing exponentially, and if the threat of their children not being able to breed after their birth were significant, they wouldnt go to hospitals for birth, they would carry them out themselves in their own homes. I suggest that rather than make absurd suggestions like that about the population, you look at the ways it would be counteracted and bypassed by the people before you suggest it. That's my ten pence worth put in the jar. ------------------
When darkness calls and the pain and suffering begin again, you can guarantee that I shall be the instigator.
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Kevin "Kayy" Beadle, The Proprietor and Innovator of Kayyos-Vx WebDesigns.
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Bozeman
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Posted on: Jun. 22 2000,10:22 |
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Okay, I, right now am going to state that genocide is wrong. But, suppose it actually came to that. There would be no way to carry it out besides some sort of Nazi death camp program, or a global nuclear war. (I love the smell of radioisotopes in the morning...) It may sound cruel, but at least if they die of starvation, no one has the burden of killing these innocents. A new study on intelligence shows approximately the same ratio of people, no matter the race, have a high I.Q. This means that race is not a factor in intelligence. Therefore, a program that kills many people has the potential to wipe out the next Einstien, or Heisenberg, or Hawking.
What will work is voluntary control of the population. Birth control may be controversial, but definitely would help control this problem. Also, Client mentioned a program in which the government would give incentives to those who adopt. BRILLIANT! This is actually a feasible idea. Of couse the sterilization at birth is so immoral it makes my head hurt, but how about this? The government offers tax deductions for dependants, right? Just remove the writeoff for the third child and beyond. That means the families who want more than 2 kids would pay a fair amount for increasing the population.
About the colony idea. When I said make Mars a colony, I did not mean imitate England's empire bid. We should immediately grant the people sent to this new world their independence, because they will eventually get it, and if they have to fight for it, they will.
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Sithiee
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Posted on: Jun. 22 2000,11:10 |
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so your basically suggesting "dont have a kid, and we'll give you money"? how about if i tear off my arm, can i have money for that too? how about if i remain a virgin for the rest of my life? is that worth somethin? 5 bucks? jesus you people are sick. if you want to know the true effects of what your suggesting, read a book called "The Giver" in it, they have a system like yours where only certain people are allowed to reproduce, and its such a fucking controlled society, it really bites.
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Client
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Posted on: Jun. 22 2000,15:49 |
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This is getting very interesting...I would just like to give my support to Crissy and Bozeman for actually thinking of logical solutions...Yes, I support voluntary population control and government programs. The sterilization at birth and birthing license programs were only present in my first message to stimulate response. It worked, and I have lost a night or two too. Many individuals are stuck in American isolationist thinking...but the world does not work that way at all. To me, a couple of world wars would be enough to prove that, or maybe the effect that our country, or other countries of which we cannot pronounce their names (our inefficiency) are having on the World environment. Minimizing suffering is a world effort, and those who stand up for America before the world are planetary traitors so to speak. On the other hand, they could just be ignorant. The nation progresses and its cities do, the cities progress and its communities do. A family progresses and its members do. And for repetition, the world progresses and it's nations and cities and communities and families do. Just an interesting fact...No war or disease EVER affected the World population negatively except...The Black Death. Damn good Communist comments Crissy.
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Sithiee
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Posted on: Jun. 22 2000,18:29 |
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you obviously have no heart whatsoever, im gonna stop talking on this "overpopulation" thread (we all know this is actually a Nazi thread in disguise
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