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Kolben 
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Posted on: Jun. 21 2000,16:48 |
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I was was just at some lecture about the overpopulation problem last year. I was actually suprised to see the conclusion. That was, that even thoough the world contains lots of people it can contain a lot more. And you are talking about how we are reducing the number of species on the earth. Well...yes we are, but we have to have in mind that lots of new species is created each day. And lots of species would die out by "natural courses". But about the rate of birth. Do you guys really think that man will continue reproducing with the same rate. At the lecture the smart men concluded that it'll slow down once we reach 8 bill. (approx. half the earths capacity). And even if it was a problem, you should go to the countries WITH the problems, and pull your stupid birth-rules over their heads. Not over the whole world. The fact is, that it's wrong to do stuff like that. I believe in the freedom of the individual person, and by saying that they can't have kids is breaking that rule. You people are just too god damn nerveous. Let's deal with the problem when/if it comes. The earth is not in danger...we've even found out, that the global heating isn't our fault. It'd have heated up anyway...
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Sithiee
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Posted on: Jun. 21 2000,19:05 |
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first off, client, dont call me kid, im at most like a year younger than you. second, what i proposed would nto cut down on the rate, true, however, the moon can support quite a few people, at least like a billion id guess, considering the lack of water bodies. Also, if you send lots of people to the moon or whatnot, chances are theyre less likely to have children there, considering the limited supply of resources. And as for the rate, its not an exponential rate, there are so many factors involved that it cant be. its like shooting off a model rocket, first the lightest feul section fires, and it goes into the air, then a heavier section fires, making it go faster, and you have 4 sections, so it seems to be speeding up at an exponential rate, but eventually your fuel is gone. gravity takes effect, and it comes back down. people are the same way, when we get to our maximum capacity, not everyone can survive, and so theyll start dying....theres an algorithm for this called the game of life.about your mass genocide...you cant do that, what gives you the right to decide who can have kids and who cant? what gives you the right to decide who lives and who dies?...your like a few steps away from being hitler. "oh, they are not of arian descent! you cant reproduce." "oh, your not strong enough or smart enough! you cant reproduce."...similar? yes. NAZI BITCH!
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Cyrino
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Posted on: Jun. 22 2000,00:46 |
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Well, has anyone considered the fact that at the rate it's going, a great deal of the population in third world countries will be gone in a few years. People don't really realize that AIDS is such a problem over there. Also, they have nothing to stop it.I don't think that the birth lisence idea would work, it's good in theory, but people wouldn't let it happen. Look at communism, in theory, it would be great, but we all know what happens when someone attempts to enstate it. I really don't think that populating the moon is a feasable solution. There just aren't many resources on the moon to make it worth populating. I think that Kayy has the right idea, we should consider that a good possibility for the "room" problem that we will be faced with. Oh well, we'll see what happens... ------------------
They have cats in the future? [This message has been edited by Cyrino (edited June 21, 2000).]
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Client
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Posted on: Jun. 22 2000,05:49 |
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The words of Wolfguard are strong and true...those of you who propose "killing" are simply posting for something other than real discussion considering they don't resemble humans in their cold hearted plan for sucsess. What they are saying is "kill my mother and my brother so i can live". This is not an approptiat solution, and as many have said, it would not solve the problem. The birth rate will slow, and it is the highest in third world countries, but the issue is that the resources will slim as a WORLD and not a nation-let us not go under that sickening time-lasting impression that America is apart from the rest of the world. As for the speceis-never in the history of the planet has this many species been ereadicated. The numbers show that it has risen from a natural hundred speces (per century) to the new 10,000. The odds are that another 10,000 will be gone in ten years. Education is great--where are the funds for it though? The (American) government denies over 20 third world countries access to birthcontrol; the buget as of now is 380 (nothing at all considering we are talking in terms of the WORLD). Do you think that a third world resident is going to find it easeir to find food if he knows he doesnt "have" to have children? It will still be better to have a large family. I think new energy forms such as fusion and the expansion of solar power could help; but food doenst grow without good soil water and sunlight--each of which the world is denying itslef access to as we destroy the environment with our increasing needs. Killing is what we are trying to avoid guys; i do not support the "kill them but keep me safe theory", and i dont think anyone wants to have their family and friends die or themselves to die. If this was our "ploicy" (see the Safe-Audit rant), the time would come when we were killing Americans-not that that would be different than killing other populations of other nations: We are all memebers of humanity and this is thew unifying factor. As for rights the previous overules: I would gladly give my right to have more than two children for my children's right to have more children. If the population peaks at 9 bill, or 1/2 the capascity-grEAT with a capital EAT; but nature has NEVER shown a population of any other animals to exibit this kind of behaivor when unchecked by predators and populaiton restriants--thusly we will, like rabbits, buffalo, ants, reproduce untill there is no place to migrate to untill there is no food left at all, not to mention no coal/fossile fuels/clean water/air etc. if we dont do something soon. The human race is a bad one...but i dont favor suffering or its survival through a few thousand eating the earth-covering flesh of the dead.
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