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i wanna know a few things. if microsoft release an os, don't they have the right to make it install anything they want by default? i admit that the way they did it wasn't the best possible way, but i am still unsure as to what they are done that would bring about an anti-trust lawsuit. however, if i ever want to become a |33+ $cr1p7 /<1dd13 hax0r3, i must take up an immediate opposition to everything microsoft, and install freebsd, spending my days looking at a shell prompt. no desktop environment for me...

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Windows 98SE is very stable for me. But i've spent a month or two a while back fucking with it. I screwed with the registry, a bunch of norton utilities and some other stuff. Now I almost never crash, the only crashes i'll experience are an occational application crash, but the OS stays up and running.

I've herd great things about both Windows 2000 and Windows ME. Maby Microsoft has got its act together?

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Two more of my cents...

I just read a whole bunch of comments, I don't remeber from who, but:

1 :) You say that the command.com isn't DOS...well how isn't it DOS? It can do anything that regular DOS can do.

2 :) To whomever said "it's just a command interpreter" then are you saying that a DOS 6.22 boot disk with only command.com isn't really DOS either, just a command interpreter.

3 :) Win 98 SE is stable as hell for me.

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It is not a stand alone OS like dos 6.22 The good utilities are not there, it is completely stripped of anything dos-like. It can not do all the things old dos can do.

A dos 6.22 boot disk is just a command interpreter. It is not a full OS on a floppy. You are able to point to other things from the command line.

Win 98SE is fine for a box from the factory. When your machine has bolts sticking out of its neck it becomes a tricky thing at best. Ill stick with linux and VM ware. That way if my 98 throws up I just kill the process and restart.

Good luck to all you NT 5 people finding drivers for older hardware. I still run some old stuff and there are no drivers. I wont even go into trying to load it on a new laptop with the correct(hehehehe)drivers.

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PostIcon Posted on: Jun. 16 2000,03:12 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE
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Originally posted by BM_Ray:

1 You say that the command.com isn't DOS...well how isn't it DOS? It can do anything that regular DOS can do.

2 To whomever said "it's just a command interpreter" then are you saying that a DOS 6.22 boot disk with only command.com isn't really DOS either, just a command interpreter.

command.com isn't DOS!
MSDOS.SYS and IO.SYS is DOS
they load into memory (which you can see by typing 'mem/d/p')
command.com is simply the prompt that you see and type with. It interprets the command and calls the associated routine in MSDOS.SYS. It is the shell between you and DOS.

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PostIcon Posted on: Jun. 18 2000,03:30 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE
Gee, no drivers for old hardware in Win2K? Who would have thought that a brand new OS wouldn't have support for old crap? Win2K is not for home use in the first place. It is a server OS, so who gives a shit if it doesn't have support for your SB Pro 16. One of the reasons Windows can be so unstable is that they have support for every damn legacy POS hardware crap that people still use. Buy some new stuff or quit complaining that Win2K doesn't have any support for your Hercules Monocrome video card.

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Wolfguard...the commands you refer to aren't commands. It's tiny little external programs. And they are located in the windows\command dir. The commands are exactly the same.

And if IO.SYS and MSDOS.SYS is DOS then there IS DOS on my computer although I ONLY installed Win98. And it even runs .exe files just like DOS can do. And when trying to run DOS 6.22 specific stuff it says "Wrong version of MSDOS" (translated from danish)

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win2k isn't just for servers. I'm uning it as my main OS.. yes driver support for my fairly aging hardware is there, but not excellent.. Chances are that is it's old enough that the manufacturer wont write a driver for win2k, then it's also old enough to be worth practically nothing...

There are some quirks with win2k, and some compatibility quirks, but it's stable as hell.

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PostIcon Posted on: Jun. 18 2000,15:46 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE
I love nothing more then talking to someone who is anti-microsoft and then asking them what OS they use. Of course it is some version of Windows.
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Originally posted by DuSTman:
win2k isn't just for servers. I'm uning it as my main OS.. yes driver support for my fairly aging hardware is there, but not excellent.. Chances are that is it's old enough that the manufacturer wont write a driver for win2k, then it's also old enough to be worth practically nothing...

There are some quirks with win2k, and some compatibility quirks, but it's stable as hell.

And slow as hell for running graphic intesive games..
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