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Less Scientfic Stuff.
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Chrissy..

Your the first one that broke? That was actully fairly shocking to me..

I think I should point out that sociology isn't really a science. Its a new age philosophy. Besides which, just because its written down in a book, doesn't make it true, and just because its taught at school doesn't make it right.

Chrissy, are there any internet links to this information you want us read so bad or do you want us to go out and buy the books? I'm fairly neutral here.. I'll read any articles you can post and form my own opinions about them, or any the other side can post as well.

And Chrissy, you talk about everyone else changing THIER opinions.. what about you changing YOUR opinion? Thats bordering on hipocracy.

Oh, and remember proof is no good unless you can display it to whomever is judging it/you.

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Just a question/comment...

One of the longest active threads is about breasts. Does anyone else need more proof that us humans are litte more than instinct-driven beasts of higher-than-average intelligence?

And a comment... how does every thread end up as a debate over the same thing... viewpoints and varying opinion? Interesting.

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JS,
first of all...check out my IM PISSED OFF thread for the internet sites and books I suggested. Also something I didnt mention there was anything written by Foucault. That doesnt have to be anything specific (two lectures, queer theory anything of the like will do) Hes a little hard to read (just a warning)even the scholars have difficulty with him, dont be surprised if you do too.

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Sorry to bust in on the philosophy here, but just to reply to stuff, my wife is pretty damn hot. She works out every day and works at the front desk at a major resort here in lovely Phoenix. And you guys just know the front desk chicks are almost always hot. uh, oh, chrissy is going to yell at me know. Oh btw, sociology has nothing to do with brains. Brains are covered in psycology and neurology. Sociology has to do with the behavior of people, mainly in groups.
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Actually
Sociology: The term has two stems- the latin socius (companion) and the Greek logos (study of)- and litterally means the study of the processes of companionship. In these terms, sociology may be defined as the study of the bases of social membership. More technically, sociology is the analysis of the structure of social relationships as constituted by social interaction, but no definition is entirely satisfactory because of the diversity of perspectives which is characterstic of the modern discipline.

SO ACTUALLY- Sociology is the study of SOCIAL INTERACTION (not just within groups but within people can we say Social Psychology?) It is the study of society- all aspects and facets.

And that last sentence tells you that there is NO specific definition of sociology because the disipline has changed so much over the past years.

Finally, while there is diagreement about the nature of sociology, there is some agreement about its importance. In defence of the discipline 1. It has contributed in detail, through numerous empirical studies, to the knowledge and understanding of modern societies; 2. It raises important questions about the nature of individual responsibility to law and morality by studying the social context of action; 3.It has contributed significantly to developments in other disciplines, especially history, philosophy, and economics; 4. It can be regarded as a new form of consciousness, particularly sensitive to the dilemmas of a secular, industrial civilization.

In order to really understand sociology as a whole you need to read up on some of the most predomiante sociologists of the late 19th and early 20th centuries (and maybe a few contemporaries)
People like:
Karl Marx "Capital" and "Communist Manifesto"
Emile Durkheim "Suicide"
Max Weber "Protestant Ethic and the Spirt of Capitalism" also "Economy and Society" (idea of Bureaucracy introduced)

Erving Goffman "Interaction Ritual"
C. Wright Mills "Power Elite" and "The Sociological Imagination"
Michel Foucault "History of Sexuality" and "Two Lectures" (anything actually "Madness and Civilization" "Discipline and Punish" "The order of things" etc)
T. Parsons "The structure of social action" "The social stystem"

Well that should give you a good start to understanding the nature of sociology as a discipline. =P

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Uh, Chrissy, I was offering up a real stripped down definition of sociology to make the point that sociology has nothing to do with the physical aspects of brains, which is what everyone was talking about. You certainly are a fountain of info about it tho. Um, I love boobies.
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