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What about every single sperm that ever comes out? Every one of them has a whole life ahaid of them. Exept that every time you jerk off and ejaculate, they all die. What about that, CK? I guess its murder, isnt it?

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RU-486 is the solution to this.

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I am totally against attacking doctors who perform abortions. those people who commit those crimes are not much better  then hamas.

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every sperm won't have a chance to become a full life. Only like one out of a million will. The sperm by itself is not a person, it's only half of a person. Same goes for an unfertilized egg. Once the egg is fertilized though, then it is on the way to becoming a real person, and should not be aborted.

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Several fertilized eggs are spontaneously aborted, without the woman ever knowing.  Even a zygote only has a chance.  If this kind of thing happens, should we have a funeral?  How can we tell?  Are people dying in uteruses across the world, without recognition?

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It is an extremly archaic notion to believe that a sperm and an egg combined is a person and should not be harmed in any way.  When you prick your finger, cells die.  That's all the zygote is, a bunch of cells.

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to imply that a single sperm and a single egg would imply that there is some kind of "soul" involved when its quite clear its just a few chromosones. considering how atheist you are CK how come you suddenly take up this VERY religious stance and claim that its life on the grounds of

"we just dont know for sure"

well if i had my arm amputated would that make me a 15% murderer becuase i killed 15% of my "soul" get a fucking grip. you want to use the whole "we don't know" argument as an opposition to "this bunch of cells will fuck up my life"

theres no physical way of something that small of even rmotely being self aware and you want ot use the excuse that eventually it will become sentient. well nature is a hell of a lot more of a murderer than we are. nature kills "potential lifeforms" every day with aborted phetouses naturally.

in short: GET A FUCKING GRIP THIS ISNT THE DARK AGES!

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<mod_hat>this one's edging towards a flamewar. Ease down.</mod_hat>

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it's really funny, because my view is this; the cells are of your creation, they take part of your DNA, and they use your resources. they _are_ you.

Does anyone here get in an uproar when dogs are put to sleep? Dogs are self aware, but that collection of cells are not.

When you use anti-bacterial soap, you murder millions of innocent bacteria cells. you don't see anyone bombing the soap factories...

Now, would you get pissy if I cut out my liver? no, you'd call me a 'f*cking dumbass'. What's the difference between my liver, that can grow itself anew in the same conditions as a fetus, and a fetus itself?

interesting points, eh?
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