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DuSTman 
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Posted on: Jun. 01 2002,16:03 |
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| Quote (Wolfguard @ 31 May 2002,08:32) | | "If i kill og, og cant help hunt. og is a good hunter and brings in a lot of food. killing og would be bad." |
That implies that og being a good hunter directly benefits you. You'd be not killing og because he's supporting you with food..
But then why would og be supporting you with food? what's in it for him?
For whatever reason og must not want you to starve.
That, IMO, would be a sort of instinctive thing..
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kuru
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Posted on: Jun. 01 2002,16:30 |
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"me can kill mammoth. hard task, stalk mammoth."
"og can kill mammoth. hard task, og stalk mammoth."
"me chase mammoth to og. og kill mammoth."
"og and me eat mammoth. mammoth big."
Co-operative hunting, or 'hunting parties'.
So Og, me, and several others go out together and kill a mammoth. The task is too big for one hunter, but not for five hunters, and the mammoth is too big for one family to eat (before it rots) but not for five families.
Now we have a society in which each member has value to the others.
"me kill og. og not hunt. mammoth get away."
"me go hungry. me kill og bad idea."
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demonk
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Posted on: Jun. 02 2002,08:02 |
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Who is this 'Og' person and when did he sign up with detnet? Sorry, just couldn't resist the obviously bad joke. Back to your serious converstation.
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Wolfguard
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Posted on: Jun. 02 2002,15:12 |
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| Quote (DuSTman @ 01 June 2002,11:03) | But then why would og be supporting you with food? what's in it for him?
For whatever reason og must not want you to starve.
That, IMO, would be a sort of instinctive thing.. |
about time someone made that point.
It is an instinctive thing.
Ok, maybe i am the only one that can make fire 100% of the time and Og likes his mamoth hot. Since he wants his mamoth hot every day Og will not kill me.
The point is all ethics come from such things. You expand on such things and make them laws. To make them stick someone back in the days of Og decided that since this idea is so grand that i could not come from man and it had to come from someplace else. That some place else became God and through some good PR it stuck.
Just goes to show that god(s) came straight out of ignorance. "Anything i can not explain on my own must be the act of god." These people were not stupid but they just did not know anything beyond what they could see.
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hannibal
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Posted on: Jun. 03 2002,02:39 |
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i think Teachers / Parents and God / Higher Power should be included as the same source of morals. it is our parents who are the first to teach us about right and wrong (hopefull) and they are also the first to teach us about God. We adapt their beliefs about God during the early years of our lives but as we grow older we may question/drop them for other ideals which come from Society or Teachers/Ministers. But even if we completely adopt the beliefs of strangers we are still ingrained with the original morals set in place by our parents.
Personally i agree with dustpan in that we get our morals from our parents and nature. you can all see my point about our parents but what i mean by nature is when you are of age to make decisions for yourself you can reason/modify the beliefs that you have due to your intelligience. i also believe that nature gives us all the ability to clearly differentiate between right and wrong.
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Wiley
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| Quote (hannibal @ 02 June 2002,18:39) | | i think Teachers / Parents and God / Higher Power should be included as the same source of morals. |
Um ....no. Parents and teachers give you knowledge you were not born with and was reasoned out by man. God implies that a higher power instilled the beliefs in us.
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demonk
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Posted on: Jun. 03 2002,04:24 |
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But god doesn't come down and tell you what is right and wrong. In all the religions out there, he came down once and told one person what is right and wrong and told that person to tell others. So, even if the beliefs did come from a higher power, they are still taught to you by your parents/teachers/ministers/etc.
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editor
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Posted on: Jun. 03 2002,04:32 |
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I would think that
"having morals"
is what's fun.
Or necessary.
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hannibal
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Posted on: Jun. 03 2002,07:57 |
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| Quote (demonk @ 02 June 2002,20:24) | | But god doesn't come down and tell you what is right and wrong. In all the religions out there, he came down once and told one person what is right and wrong and told that person to tell others. So, even if the beliefs did come from a higher power, they are still taught to you by your parents/teachers/ministers/etc. |
thanks
unless you have personally had an experience in which God came down from the heavens and told you how things were you learn about God through others. Not fromt he almighty himself.
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hannibal
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Posted on: Jun. 03 2002,07:58 |
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letme clarify a little, in my first post i stated that i think its a part of nature which instills into us all the difference between right and wrong, but i also believe that God and nature are two totally different things.
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