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CatKnight 
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Posted on: May 25 2002,17:10 |
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A couple days ago, mexican army soldiers and mexican federal police officers crossed over the boarder in a truck and SHOT AT a US boarder patrol truck to cover some drug smugglers. They shot out the guy's back and front windows, narrowly missing his head. Furthermore, they shot at him while he was driving away in retreat! Is it just me or is that an act of war?
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veistran
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Posted on: May 25 2002,20:56 |
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| Quote (Wolfguard @ 25 May 2002,08:11) | | Quote (veistran @ 24 May 2002,17:57) | | It's hard to treat what is essentially a moral issue as an actual war. |
just like ww1, ww2, civil war...
You can say that for just about any war.
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I wrote this long reply, it was pretty good, then I thought of a better one... no, war is a physical and very tangible issue. Drug use is a moral issue, really one facet of the moral issue of "what lifestyle choices are you allowed to make on your own."
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Necromancer
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Posted on: May 26 2002,01:04 |
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| Quote (CatKnight @ 25 May 2002,17:10) | | A couple days ago, mexican army soldiers and mexican federal police officers crossed over the boarder in a truck and SHOT AT a US boarder patrol truck to cover some drug smugglers. They shot out the guy's back and front windows, narrowly missing his head. Furthermore, they shot at him while he was driving away in retreat! Is it just me or is that an act of war? |
no thats some idiot mexicans being bribed by some drug peddlers acting against the mexican governments intentions. if i went into america as a soldier of the uk government and shot some american soldiers i'd be punishble by the uk court for acting without orders. Its not that hard to understand. it isnt world war 3 CK get a grip please  
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CatKnight
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Posted on: May 26 2002,22:28 |
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well i didn't say we should go to war, I was just saying how outrageous it was.
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Wiley
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Posted on: May 26 2002,23:05 |
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Mexico and the US have some strange laws about chasing people across the borders, maybe this led to some confusion and shots were fired ...I saw something similar happen once.
I was in Mexico (in TJ, right at the border) arguing with a Mexican shop owner because he wanted me to give him $60 for a cheap statue that I broke in his store and I was only willing to give him $5. He called the police over and we were all arguing. All of a sudden this police chase came down the US side towards Mexico and crashes through the toll plaza into Mexico. The CHP wasn't about to let the guy get away and they crashed through the toll plaza right after him. The Mexican feds start shooting at everybody, even the CHP. The cop I was arguing with starts firing at random at the guy in the car and the CHP who went right past us. I ran like hell with the shop owner still following me swearing.
I'm thinking that if the Mexican feds were chasing some dude and the border patrol got involved then anything coulda happened ...it's not like the two law enforcment agencies have the best communications in the world.
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damien_s_lucifer
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Posted on: May 27 2002,01:03 |
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lol @ wiley
honestly, CK, if someone down there WAS following orders, it would be hard to decide if we should take it as an act of war, or give Mexico a medal for having a chain of command for once.
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CatKnight
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Posted on: May 27 2002,01:34 |
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touche 
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Wolfguard
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Posted on: May 27 2002,15:10 |
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| Quote (veistran @ 25 May 2002,15:56) | | no, war is a physical and very tangible issue. Drug use is a moral issue, really one facet of the moral issue of "what lifestyle choices are you allowed to make on your own." |
"I think we should be able to pratice what ever religion we want and not have some king tell us what to do."
"I think that there should be no slaves in these United States"
"If Germany runs unchecked personal freedoms will suffer."
"I think that comunists need to be stopped."
are these not just facets of the same lifestyle moral issue? Did not these "facets" become a reason for war?
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Bozeman
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Posted on: May 27 2002,15:49 |
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You can win a war against a country, but it's almost impossible to win a war against an idea.
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Wolfguard
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Posted on: May 28 2002,03:31 |
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The smart ass flame answer would be "thats why there are nukes."
The ideal answer is once you knock over the country you can then start an open discussion with its people. Through the exchange of knowledge you hope you can change the idea you thought was moraly wrong.
In an ideal world once they see your point and still dont like you they have the right to tell you to get stuffed.
But, the war on drugs is not this type of war. There are a few people making a lot of money selling "poison" to the people of the united states. These people have assets that are protected by what amounts to a private armys. So, this war could be fought by taking out these assets and the armys that protect them.
The goal of war is to remove your opponants ability to wage war. If their ability to grow, process and distribute is blown to hell they loose.
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