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Beldurin
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Posted on: May 28 2002,04:49 |
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Quote (Wolfguard @ 27 May 2002,21:31) | The smart ass flame answer would be "thats why there are nukes."
The ideal answer is once you knock over the country you can then start an open discussion with its people. Through the exchange of knowledge you hope you can change the idea you thought was moraly wrong.
In an ideal world once they see your point and still dont like you they have the right to tell you to get stuffed.
But, the war on drugs is not this type of war. There are a few people making a lot of money selling "poison" to the people of the united states. These people have assets that are protected by what amounts to a private armys. So, this war could be fought by taking out these assets and the armys that protect them.
The goal of war is to remove your opponants ability to wage war. If their ability to grow, process and distribute is blown to hell they loose. |
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Bozeman
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Posted on: May 28 2002,05:38 |
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Quote (Wolfguard @ 27 May 2002,23:31) | The ideal answer is once you knock over the country you can then start an open discussion with its people. Through the exchange of knowledge you hope you can change the idea you thought was moraly wrong. |
Knocking over countries? If we waged war on all the countries that provided us with drugs, it would be seen to be a bid for global domination, as there are many.
Conquest can't be the best answer, and nuclear warfare is never an answer.
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Beastie Dr
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Posted on: May 28 2002,06:18 |
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I have made the informed decision to stay away from this forum, BUUUUUUT:
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veistran
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Posted on: May 28 2002,06:27 |
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Quote (Wolfguard @ 27 May 2002,09:10) | Quote (veistran @ 25 May 2002,15:56) | no, war is a physical and very tangible issue. Drug use is a moral issue, really one facet of the moral issue of "what lifestyle choices are you allowed to make on your own." |
"I think we should be able to pratice what ever religion we want and not have some king tell us what to do."
"I think that there should be no slaves in these United States"
"If Germany runs unchecked personal freedoms will suffer."
"I think that comunists need to be stopped."
are these not just facets of the same lifestyle moral issue? Did not these "facets" become a reason for war? |
There was a lot more than personal freedom at stake when it came to the Germans the second time around. The first time around we have the Serb's to blame for setting off that bonfire by assassinating the heir to the throne of Austria.
Revolutionary war was well beyond a simple moral issue, it had gone beyond that when you had the punitive taxes, and general exploitation of the colonies.
The communists needed to be stopped because they were bad for buisness as it were.
The American civil war was about considerably more than just slavery, unfortunately and despite what most people are taught about it. Most of it was not moral issues.
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Wolfguard
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Posted on: May 28 2002,13:14 |
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so much for inteligent answers...
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Post Number: 26
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Beldurin
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Posted on: May 28 2002,18:53 |
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Sorry, I didn't feel like being serious at the time. This is another of those "it's easy to see what should be done, but it probably never will be" issues.
We should actually put forth the full effort of the resources at our disposal. But it won't happen. Too many of the decision-makers are either clients of the drug cartels, or they're funded by them. It's a sad fact, but what can we do?
There should be stricter laws in place and more severe punishments for those who traffic in this poison, but somehow I doubt that there will be, for the reasons mentioned above.
It's just disheartening when most people can see what is right, but it never gets done.
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CatKnight
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Posted on: May 28 2002,19:56 |
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Quote (Wolfguard @ 27 May 2002,14:31) | But, the war on drugs is not this type of war. There are a few people making a lot of money selling "poison" to the people of the united states. These people have assets that are protected by what amounts to a private armys. So, this war could be fought by taking out these assets and the armys that protect them. |
didn't reagan and bush try that? it didn't work because we went at if half-assed.
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Wolfguard
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Posted on: May 30 2002,13:46 |
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Quote (CatKnight @ 28 May 2002,14:56) | didn't reagan and bush try that? it didn't work because we went at if half-assed. |
that is correct. They went at it half-assed.
If they put their entire ass on the line it would of worked fine.
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