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first, the Executive and Legislative branches do not have jurisdiction over legal interpretations of the Constitution, so whatever the Solicitor General says is irrelevant.

you have no clue how things actually work do you? I'm sorry but that's all I can say to that and the rest of your posts, they sound like the rantings of a lunatic, I mean liberal.

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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


If this only grants the right of gun ownership to state militias, why doesn't it read:
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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the state militias to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

???

back when this was written, a milita was more or less the equivelant of an armed neighborhood watch.  They were just a groupe of guys with guns who tried to train themselves in combat in case they were needed, with or without official regognition by the state.

CK hit the nail on the head when he said that the purpose of the 2nd ammendment is to keep the population armed to prevent the US gov. from becomming tyranical.

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heh i just realized if i delete my own pictures, dysorderia will be crippled because all he does is link mine.

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heh i just realized if i delete my own pictures, dysorderia will be crippled because all he does is link mine.

nope since ive uploaded both of those to my site now so :p  devil.gif  sly.gif

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oh well since dysorderia has begun his trolling routine, I guess this means I have officially won the argument, since he only trolls because he knows I am right and has no other way to argue. gg

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CK and veistrain, you are so full of shit.  You consitantly make posts that describe how liberals are wrong, and in doing so you do the exact same thing that you accuse others of.

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you have no clue how things actually work do you? I'm sorry but that's all I can say to that and the rest of your posts, they sound like the rantings of a lunatic, I mean liberal.


This is brainless rhetoric that Ck always accuses people of (most of the time just because they disagree with him) and then he goes on to praise this person.  Interesting.

Also, as soon as someone posts a link to their disertation on 18'th centuray language, I don't give two shits about what you think well-regulated militia means in todays context.  You're no more a valid speaker on it than anyone else here.  Pertaining to that, if you go -find- a disertation on said subject I will do nothing but applaud your google skills, since there are probably 100's for and against each side.

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CK hit the nail on the head when he said that the purpose of the 2nd ammendment is to keep the population armed to prevent the US gov. from becomming tyranical.


Again, this is just your opinion and I don't see any information here that proves that point of view any more than the alternative.

In -my- completely uneducated opinion, with absolutely no evidence to back it up, I'm pretty fucking glad their are gun regulations.  If we don't let felons vote, why should they be able to own weapons since they have proved themselves to be detriments to society?  I also don't want people bringing guns anywhere near a school, or quite frankly, most public places.  I fail to see how it makes anyone any safer if you're toting around a .45 in your handbag.  Chances are, whoever is carrying it wil just do something stupid if they ever pull it out.

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the number of gun owners who are trained FAR EXCEEDS the number of illegal/untrained owners by a factor of something like 100,000 to 1


I don't see any proof for this number either.  How you manage to find that number, I really don't care, since there are both opinions online and I'm sure we could find both sides.

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no one said anything about letting convicted felons buy handguns. usually, when you are convicted of a felony, you relinquish your rights.

as for your other two arguments, you are basically saying "I don't believe you because you didn't show your source, but even if you did show your source, I could find an alternative viewpoint, so therefore, we both could be right, therefore, you are wrong."

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I'm pretty sure I didn't say you were wrong anywhere in my post (about your view on the 2'nd amend.).  I did say you knock other people's opinions and do the same thing you accuse them of.

Hence the word opinion.

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as for your other two arguments, you are basically saying "I don't believe you because you didn't show your source, but even if you did show your source, I could find an alternative viewpoint, so therefore, we both could be right, therefore, you are wrong."

I think he's saying you are wrong, and would find some bullshit even you know isn't true to back up your argument, since misinformation is commonplace on the internet.  OH, WAIT...that's what he DID say.

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