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ic0n0 
I have become Death, Destroyer of Worlds
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Posted on: May 18 2002,12:57 |
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Not another open minded and informative debate with CK. Frankly any argument with CK is pointless as he is a moral absolutist so anything you argue that doesn’t agree with his word view is obviously wrong before he even thinks about a good logical response. Ck's arguments are based purely on emotion and his morals. The logic he does use is Affective as he tries to prove something he already believes to be true, what you know isn’t as important as why you know it and who told you. So why bother.
Edited by ic0n0 on Jan. 01 1970,01:00
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"I don't have the evidence to prove that God doesn't exist, but I so strongly suspect he doesn't that I don't want to waste my time." (Isaac Asimov)
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CatKnight
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Posted on: May 18 2002,15:53 |
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well when you can't attack the argument, attack the arguer, I suppose.
ic0n0, what is wrong with being a moral absolutist? If I said murder is wrong in all circumstances, would you argue with me on the grounds that murder is only wrong because of what my moral system says? what is wrong with arguing purely on a moral stance? why shouldn't I argue for something which I already believe to be true? where did you come up with that last statement?
This argument was going well until DSL gave up and ic0n0 just decided to be a troll.
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Beastie Dr
I will abort you.
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Posted on: May 18 2002,15:53 |
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CK, he'd need an argument to attack, first.
[edited since I got beat to the post]
Edited by Beastie Dr on Jan. 01 1970,01:00
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damien_s_lucifer
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Posted on: May 19 2002,02:25 |
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| Quote (ic0n0 @ 18 May 2002,04:57) | | Ck's arguments are based purely on emotion and his morals. |
THANK YOU ic0n0!!! Someone else finally points out what I've thought all along 
CK, you do realize I'm not trying to change your mind, right? I'm trying to show other people how fucking ridiculous Conservative arguments really are, and what they are really trying to achieve.
Personally, I call CK's political stance "fascism."
Beastie Dr., good work. You're the best n00bie to come along in a while 
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CatKnight
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Posted on: May 19 2002,03:13 |
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the only emotion i ever use is anger, and its caused by your cluelessness. emotion is never part of the argument. please DSL, enlighten me on my facist conservative views. why don't you name a couple things and tell me why I'm wrong. I'd love to know. All this CK bashing is getting old.
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Beastie Dr
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Posted on: May 19 2002,03:52 |
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CK, I was honestly trying to find something to argue against, I swear to god...but there is not one valid argument on this page. You posted some statistics on an argument nobody even had, but that's about as close as I could come. All of your arguments are, as ic0n0 said, based upon emotion and your own morals, i.e. "liberals==pro-choice==killing babies because you were too irresponsible to use a condom/abstain. "
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CatKnight
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Posted on: May 19 2002,04:35 |
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why does no one answer my questions? you are more then happy to bash me and my evil conservative morals but you never answer the question! you have repeated your slander so often that you just assume it is true without even thinking about it. in what facet are my arguments based on emotion? and, do you think it is wrong of me to say that killing babies is immoral? if so, are you saying that abortion is morally acceptable? why do you equate my reasoning as saying they are "my" morals, when the whole point I am trying to convey is that there are, indeed, absolute morals?
Edited by CatKnight on Jan. 01 1970,01:00
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Beastie Dr
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Posted on: May 19 2002,04:42 |
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Here's my point: they are -morals-. Everyone has their own, and everyone should be entitled to their own. The government has no place enforcing their moral codes on other people. So, really, I don't answer the questions because they shouldn't come into play in the big picture.
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CatKnight
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Posted on: May 19 2002,05:37 |
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think about what you are saying. you are saying that everyone should get to pick and choose their own moral beliefs. but, the very definition of morality is the seperation of right and wrong. if everyone has their own moral beliefs, and they are all considered equally valid, then there is no such distinction, hence, there are no morals in society! morality has to be derived from some source that is greater then man. I believe it is god, you can believe it is biology or neuro programming or whatever you like. The fact remains that there has to be moral absolutes.
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Dysorderia
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Posted on: May 19 2002,06:28 |
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| Quote (CatKnight @ 18 May 2002,10:53) | | ic0n0, what is wrong with being a moral absolutist? If I said murder is wrong in all circumstances, would you argue with me on the grounds that murder is only wrong because of what my moral system says? what is wrong with arguing purely on a moral stance? why shouldn't I argue for something which I already believe to be true? where did you come up with that last statement? |
What's wrong with child pornography?
Why is Hitler portrayed as a madman?
Is the sky blue?
Are the above questions retarded?
<end pseudo-Catknight dumb shit mode>  
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Sir? May I recommend I load myself into the reverse-thrust tubes and you use my body as decoy-fodder? This will, of course leave me splattered across deep space and unable to complete today's laundry, for which I apologise in advance.
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