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Wiley 
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Nah, she doesn't like to get up at 4am with me. She comes to bed between 10 and 11 and gets things going. I've been trying to adjust her schedule to get her to come to be earlier ...but she won't miss Buffy.
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TheTaxMan
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Posted on: Jun. 22 2002,09:26 |
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Back on topic...
I think it's worthless to execute someone who can't understand the concept or finality of their actions. If they don't know what they did, what's going to be accomplished by killing them? That seems a lot like revenge and a not very much like justice.
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Darth Liberus
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Posted on: Jun. 23 2002,22:11 |
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TaxMan hits it dead on. Whatever "logic" and "reason" is brought to bear in favor of executing retards, the fact of the matter is that the death penalty in general is not about preventing crime or rehabilitating criminals.
It's about vengeance.
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demonk
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Posted on: Jun. 24 2002,03:37 |
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I would also that it is the only way we can completely assure that a very violent person does not hurt society ever again. If a person is mentally retarded or not doesn't play a part in that. If they are violent, they are violent. If they can't be taught not to be violent, then they will always be violent. If they are violent, they always pose a risk to others, themselves, and society as a whole. That is why it shouldn't really matter what the person's mental capacity is.
(I just want to add that I have a mentally retarded little brother, so I speak from experience about dealing with them and teaching them. Sometimes, it's very hard to teach a simple moral concept.)
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TheTaxMan
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Posted on: Jun. 24 2002,08:35 |
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| Quote (Darth Liberus @ 23 June 2002,14:11) | | It's about vengeance. |
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lykosis
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Posted on: Jun. 24 2002,15:09 |
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kust curious here...what's so wrong with vengeance?
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incubus
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Posted on: Jun. 24 2002,16:56 |
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Two wrongs don't make a right.
Three lefts do, though.
Vengence might sound cool but it's just lowering yourself to their level.
*disclaimer* I am not getting into a boring political debate over this */disclaimer*
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ic0n0
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Posted on: Jun. 24 2002,19:51 |
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| Quote (lykosis @ 24 June 2002,01:09) | | kust curious here...what's so wrong with vengeance? |
Exactly, nothing. I don't really like the death penalty but not for because it's vengeful i know people will always want vengeince and that isn't Wrong it’s a natural emotion when the life of the innocent is taken. But the main reason i do not favor the Death penalty is that I feel it’s inherently racist but that’s another debate.
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TheTaxMan
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Posted on: Jun. 24 2002,21:39 |
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All I have to say is if even one fourth the population of the earth had some sense of unconditional positive regard the world would be a better place.
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lykosis
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Posted on: Jun. 24 2002,21:45 |
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when my aunt was murdered...i dont remember ever feeling like they guy shoud die...that was a long tima ago...i was just a kid, 9 or 10 maybe...i didn't really understand. i know the family sure wanted him torched though...i can remember some of their conversations...maybe he should have been...i don't know....maybe he's done a lot of good things since he got out...maybe he killed again...you just dont know what's gonna happen.
he was released after 10 years...temp insanity.
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