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Posted on: Mar. 17 2002,22:15 |
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you mean capoeira.
and uh, necro, sensai or sensei?
i wanted to learn shotokan karate when i read the manual for street fighter. it's what ryu and ken use.. i dunno if they really do or not, but i did see a shotokan place around..
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Necromancer
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Posted on: Mar. 18 2002,02:03 |
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god knows if i've spelt it right besides its not supposed to be spelt properly its all supposed to be a bunch of weird symbols 
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Wiley
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Posted on: Mar. 18 2002,06:07 |
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| Quote (just_dave @ 17 Mar. 2002,10:51) | | I took Shaolin Do for about three years. Its sounds the same as the Long Fist version in the previous post. But, anyways my sensi ... |
Not to be all nit picky and shit, but Shao Lin is a Chinese martial art and is therefor not followed by a Do and it is taught by a Sifu, not a Sensei. I know, whatever ...just thought I'd be one of those dicks who corrects everybody ...but I did study the shit for 5 years and became Buddhist as a result.
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Jimi
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Posted on: Mar. 18 2002,12:54 |
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I used to do Hap Ki Do, then in high school some dude who was giving me grief for weeks, I did the sensible thing and ignored him for ages, then one day I was playing football at school and he came running over kicking the ball away and everything to get me riled up.
It worked when he jumped on my back with his arm trying to strangle me, I threw him at least three metres ahead of me. He landed on his head, did get up for a while and I nearly got thrown out of school.
He tryed to get me a couple of weeks later and backed down straight away when I squared up to him and didn't back down. He walked of shouting obsenities at me and that was the end of that. Whooooppaaaa
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WillyPete
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Posted on: Mar. 18 2002,13:31 |
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Was thinking of taking up Hen-tai myself.
With you on the Jiu-Jitsu Necro. Also fancied the Wing Shun (wing chun - depends where/what you read) ideas. Principally, it teaches that it's 'uneconomical' to use kicks to the upper body. They take too long and also telegraph intent. Drop your balance too.
A kick to the head is considered as sensible as a punch to the knee. You can do as much with a punch to the head as a kick and there's less chance of missing.
Makes sense.
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just_dave
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Posted on: Mar. 18 2002,18:21 |
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 7-->| Quote (Wiley @ 17 Mar. 2002,137) | | Quote (just_dave @ 17 Mar. 2002,10:51) | | I took Shaolin Do for about three years. Its sounds the same as the Long Fist version in the previous post. But, anyways my sensi ... |
Not to be all nit picky and shit, but Shao Lin is a Chinese martial art and is therefor not followed by a Do and it is taught by a Sifu, not a Sensei. I know, whatever ...just thought I'd be one of those dicks who corrects everybody ...but I did study the shit for 5 years and became Buddhist as a result. |
Understandably so, but it was called ShaoLin Do. Thats what the sanactions were under and it was under Grandmaster Sin Kwang The' (spelling?) I am just telling you what was on the papers, and on certificates. Here is the one of the many sites. Shaolin Do. I am not claiming to be right, I am just telling ya what I knew of it and what it was, and how it was spelled.
-dave
Edited by just_dave on Jan. 01 1970,01:00
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Wiley
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Posted on: Mar. 18 2002,18:41 |
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Maybe just a case of everything getting fux0red up in the west. Like the spellings of Kung-Fu/Gung-Fu or something. At any rate Shao Lin long fist no longer exists in China anymore ...the communists outlawed the teachings of the more defence focused styles but they let the study of Wu-Shu and the more acrobatic styles continue so that they could get money from tourists when they visited the "re-creations" of the Buddhist temples were the styles were learned. This includes the rebuilt Shao-Lin temple that is said to be the origin of Chinese Kung-Fu ...brought over from India and used to condition the bodies of the monks who had grown weak from meditation. Most of the meditation styles are derived from real combat techniques as well. If you have a chance to work with a good Tai-Chi teacher they can show you how Tai-Chi Ch'uan is really a practical martial art form, people just don't understand the movements correctly. I'm looking for a good Kung-Fu school in LA right now, but not with much sucess. I also wouldn't mind a good Aikido school as Aikido is a good balance of meditation and defence ...and I think both styles compliment each other well.
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just_dave
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Posted on: Mar. 18 2002,20:38 |
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I totally agree Wiley. Most people dont understand much of the Tai Chi stuff. I wish I could get back into martial arts. But, my current schedule has no room. As before, I wasn't trying to disaprove what you said, I just wanted to show ya where I was coming from, but what you said, probablly alot of the meanings and names were lost in translations to English or which ever it may be translated to. But either way its nice to know that the people that accutally presue this artform decides to learn as much as possible.
-dave
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Posted on: Mar. 19 2002,01:14 |
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theres some chinese big bastard guy in a van damme movie who in real life turned his knowldge of tai chi into a lethal martial art.
(disclaimer i in no way have any less respect for people who think the opposite of this) i don't think i could ever be obsessed enough to dedicate my whole life to an art like the shaolin styles, not to be too blunt but i'm not interested in conditioning my body to take planks of wood across the chest you cant really condition yourself to take a knife. i learnt it 2 achieve a bit of self control and be able to handle myself in a real-life fight where people arent likely to have nun-chukka or morning stars. (although it would be fun if it was like that) like i said before my style doesnt focus very much on kicks or fancy shit its down and dirty and it works extremely well cos who wants to rip their best trousers on a night out on the town just to kick a guy in the head when you can do something much more fun like break his arm with his own body weight  . all styles worth their weight incorperate some form of discipline but my teachers have full time jobs and go out and get pissed and keep fit without endless meditation. i think people need to distinguish between the styles that are more street orientated and those that are about enlightenment and such. (i also realise that there are a lot of styles that incorperate both).
and some types of kickboxing pisses me off when they give people false confidence as they never try to simulate real life situations by using real weapons or at least put them in a limited but real danger. they just spa using competition style rules.
(no doubt i've contradicted myself or misrepresented my opinion to some people by using the wrong terminology or spelling but i did it for self defence purposes and not a lot else, discipline and respect comes for free with that anywayz  )
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Wiley
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Posted on: Mar. 19 2002,06:16 |
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That's kinda the trick, you gotta find a style and teacher that can give you the things you want to get out of it. I started out just wanting to learn to defend myself and then got more involved in the meditation side of the martial arts. I agree that high kicks are stupid in a real fight, but they do hone your balance and flexability when practiced. I've seen a lot of guys get their arms and wrists broken when they had to catch themselves after having their standing leg swept out from under them during a high kick. Very unpracticle in a real fight. All styles have their weaknesses though, I remember when Gracie JuJitsu was all the rage and some guys were talking shit about us Kung-Fu guys and how they could choke us out and hold us until we gave up. What I don't think they realized is that we train for multiple attacks and work well in a group situation ...Gracie JuJitsu is kinda just one on one. I asked the guy who was telling me how he was going to choke me out what he was going to do about my friend kicking him in the head while he had me in the sleeper hold. I don't think he thought that far ahead. And I'm not stupid ...I'm not going to graple a grappler ...there's a reason it's called long fist.
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