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ic0n0 
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BlackFlag
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Posted on: Apr. 17 2002,20:08 |
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| Quote | | but my distaste for "Eminem" is still growing |
Most of the Eminem haters i know have never listened to much of his music. The message of his songs does not promote violence towards women, hatred of homosexuals, drug use, or any of the other dumb shit that old people who've never listened to his music accuse him of. Quite the opposite.
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Beldurin
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Posted on: Apr. 17 2002,20:12 |
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| Quote (BlackFlag @ 17 April 2002,14:08) | | Quote | | but my distaste for "Eminem" is still growing |
Most of the Eminem haters i know have never listened to much of his music. The message of his songs does not promote violence towards women, hatred of homosexuals, drug use, or any of the other dumb shit that old people who've never listened to his music accuse him of. Quite the opposite. |
So what you're saying is that I missed the point of the song about him beating, raping, and murdering his wife?
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Dysorderia
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Quote (BlackFlag @ 17 April 2002,15 ) | | The message of his songs does not promote violence towards women, hatred of homosexuals, drug use, or any of the other dumb shit that old people who've never listened to his music accuse him of. |
Oh really?  
women-bashing lyrics
drug-promoting lyrics
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From his first album 'Infinite':
Twist them up, and indulge in the marijuana smoke
Druggling thugs, smuggling drugs, juggling jobs, guzzling jugs
Baby all I wanna do is swallow one and two
Smoke a little bit and follow one of you
From his second album 'The Slim Shady EP':
Doing whippits, passed out like Sanford snippits
Where's the weed, I wanna tamper with it
I'ma let your grandpa hit it
Mix it up with cocaine so he can't forget it
From his third album 'The Slim Shady LP':
I just found out my mom does more dope than I do
I told her I'd grow up to be a famous rapper
Make a record about doin drugs and name it after her
I picked it up and screamed, "Look bitch, what have you done?!?"
M "Oh my God, I'm sorry son"
E "Shut up you cunt!" I said, "Fuck it!"
Take you on Jerry Springer, and beat yer ass legally
I get you blunted off of funny home grown
Cause when I smoke out I hit the trees harder than Sonny Bono
So if I said I never did drugs
That would mean I lie AND get fucked more than the President does.
Hillary Clinton tried to slap me and call me a pervert
I ripped her fuckin tonsils out and fed her sherbet |
Need i go on?
::edit:: added quotes
Edited by Dysorderia on Jan. 01 1970,01:00
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BlackFlag
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Posted on: Apr. 18 2002,09:26 |
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you obviously don't get the point of his music, so let me explain to you how Eminem's music differs from most gangsta rap that promotes drug use, violence towards women, violence towards police, etc...
His music is full of violent imagry, foul language, and illicit drug use refferences, but he doesn not glorify this lifestyle. You don't see him in his videos iced out cruising in a bently.... You don't see any fly girls shaking their money maker in his face.... You don't see him pulling out wads of hundreds, saying shit like 'thug life', 'its all about the benjemins' or 'pimpin ain't easy'....
His message is "my life is fucked up, my parents are fucked up, im fucked up, society is fucked up, but feel free to fuck up your life like i fucked up mine if you don't want to listen to what im trying to say."
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[role model]
I get a clean shave, bathe, go to a rave
Die from an overdose and dig myself up out of my grave
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Now follow me and do exactly what you see
Don't you wanna grow up to be just like me!
I slap women and eat shrooms then O.D.
Now don't you wanna grow up to be just like me!
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'm bout as normal as Norman Bates, with deformative traits
A premature birth that was four minutes late
Mother.. are you there? I love you
I never meant to hit you over the head with that shovel
Will someone explain to my brain that I just severed
a main vein with a chainsaw and I'm in pain?
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I came to the club drunk with a fake ID
Don't you wanna grow up to be just like me!
I've been with 10 women who got HIV
Now don't you wanna grow up to be just like me!
I got genital warts and it burns when I pee
Don't you wanna grow up to be just like me!
I tie a rope around my penis and jump from a tree
You probably wanna grow up to be just like me!!!
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[The Kids]
Hi there little boys and girls (FUCK YOU!
Today we're gonna to learn how to poison squirrels
But first, I'd like you to meet my friend Bob (Huh?)
Say hi Bob! ("Hi Bob") Bob's 30 and still lives with his mom
and he don't got a job, cause Bob sits at home and smokes pot
but his twelve-year old brother looks up to him an awful lot
And Bob likes to hang out at the local waffle spot
and wait in the parkin lot for waitresses off the clock
when it's late and the lot gets dark and fake like he walks his dog
Drag 'em in the woods and go straight to the chopping blocks (AHH!
And even if they escaped and they got the cops
the ladies would all be so afraid, they would drop the charge
'til one night Mrs. Stacey went off the job
when she felt someone grab her whole face and said not to talk
But Stacey knew it was Bob and said knock it off
But Bob wouldn't knock it off cause he's crazy and off his rocker
Crazier than Slim Shady is off the vodka
You couldn't even take him to Dre's to get Bob a "Dr."
He grabbed Stace' by the legs as chopped it off her
and dropped her off in the lake for the cops to find her
But ever since the day Stacey went off to wander
they never found her, and Bob still hangs at the waffle diner
And that's the story of Bob and his marijuana,
and what it might do to you
So see if the squirrels want any - it's bad for you
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Jimi
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Posted on: Apr. 18 2002,10:38 |
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I dislike Eminem because I dislike Eminem, I couldn't give a flying fuck what the words were, I'll go and do what I choose to do not what a song tells me to do.
If you were to beat women, do drugs etc. because of a song you have to be pretty mentally unstable anyway.
I used to listen to him all the time a quite liked his stuff, but i'm just not into it anymore. But the fools who say he is giving their children unwholesome thoughts are just looking for someone to blame for their bad parenting in moy opinion.
I listen to Rage quite alot, but i'm not going to go out and start terrorising the american leaders because rage said "Fuck you I won't do what you tell me".
One day people will learn that you can't blame music for other peoples actions. 
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The_Stomper
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Posted on: Apr. 18 2002,16:25 |
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| Quote (BlackFlag @ 18 April 2002,04:26) | you obviously don't get the point of his music, so let me explain to you how Eminem's music differs from most gangsta rap that promotes drug use, violence towards women, violence towards police, etc...
His music is full of violent imagry, foul language, and illicit drug use refferences, but he doesn not glorify this lifestyle. You don't see him in his videos iced out cruising in a bently.... You don't see any fly girls shaking their money maker in his face.... You don't see him pulling out wads of hundreds, saying shit like 'thug life', 'its all about the benjemins' or 'pimpin ain't easy'....
His message is "my life is fucked up, my parents are fucked up, im fucked up, society is fucked up, but feel free to fuck up your life like i fucked up mine if you don't want to listen to what im trying to say." |
Well no shit you don't hear him saying "thug life" or "pimpin ain't easy" - he's whiter than the wads of encrusted cum Dr. Dre filled his girly, virgin ass with. (Don't call me racist. When was the last time you heard a white man say either of those quoted?)
Actually, from what I've been forced to endure of it, Eminem doesn't seem to be into the violence against police nearly as much as the other members of the rap "industry" - he's probably too busy pushing drugs on kids and beating prostitutes.
Why don't we take a look at some more "examples." Please excuse the grammatical errors in the lyrics - I just cut and pasted them off a popular Eminem site, so they're not going to be written any better than fifth-grade literature.
lyrics convieniently omitted by BlackFlag
lyrics that prove aforementioned points about women-beating, murder and drug promotion - hereafter referred to as Rapperisms
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Mic check one two.. we recordin?
I'm cancerous, so when I diss you wouldn't wanna answer this
If you responded back with a battle rap you wrote for Canibus
I strangled you to death then I choked you again
Then break your fuckin legs till your bones poke through your skin
You beef wit me, I'ma even the score equally
Take you on Jerry Springer, and beat yer ass legally
I get you blunted off of funny home grown
Cause when I smoke out I hit the trees harder than Sonny Bono
(Ohh no!! So if I said I never did drugs
That would mean I lie AND get fucked more than the President does
Hillary Clinton tried to slap me and call me a pervert
I ripped her fuckin tonsils out and fed her sherbet (Bitch!
My nerves hurt, and lately I'm on edge
Grabbed Vanilla Ice and ripped out his blonde dreads (Fuck you!
Every girl I ever went out wit is goin lez
Follow me and do exactly what the song says:
smoke weed, take pills, drop outta school, kill people and drink
And jump behind the wheel like it was still legal
I'm dumb enough to walk in a store and steal
So I'm dumb enough to ask for a date with Lauryn Hill
Some people only see that I'm white, ignorin skill
Cause I stand out like a green hat with a orange bill
But I don't get pissed, y'all don't even see through the mist
How the fuck can I be white, I don't even exist
I get a clean shave, bathe, go to a rave
Die from an overdose and dig myself up out of my grave
My middle finger won't go down, how do I wave?
And this is how I'm supposed to teach kids how to behave?
Now follow me and do exactly what you see
Don't you wanna grow up to be just like me!
I slap women and eat shrooms then O.D.
Now don't you wanna grow up to be just like me!
Me and Marcus Allen went over to see Nicole
When we heard a knock at the door, must have been Ron Gold'
Jumped behind the door, put the orgy on hold
Killed em both and smeared blood in a white Bronco (we did it!
My mind won't work if my spine don't jerk
I slapped Garth Brooks out of his Rhinestone shirt
I'm not a player just a ill rhyme sayer
That'll spray an Aerosol can up at the ozone layer (psssssssh)
My rap style's warped, I'm runnin out the morgue
witcha dead grandmother's corpse to throw it on your porch
Jumped in a Chickenhawk cartoon wit a cape on
And beat up Foghorn Leghorn with an acorn
I'm bout as normal as Norman Bates, with deformative traits
A premature birth that was four minutes late
Mother.. are you there? I love you
I never meant to hit you over the head with that shovel
Will someone explain to my brain that I just severed
a main vein with a chainsaw and I'm in pain?
I take a breather and sighed; either I'm high, or I'm nuts
Cause if you ain't tiltin this room, neither am I
So when you see your mom with a thermometer shoved in her ass
Then it probably is obvious I got it on with her
Cause when I drop this solo shit it's over with
I bought Cage's tape, opened it, and dubbed over it
I came to the club drunk with a fake ID
Don't you wanna grow up to be just like me!
I've been with 10 women who got HIV
Now don't you wanna grow up to be just like me!
I got genital warts and it burns when I pee
Don't you wanna grow up to be just like me!
I tie a rope around my penis and jump from a tree
You probably wanna grow up to be just like me!!!
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Wow. So let's see, we've got pretty much all the bases covered in that one "song". Woman-beating, drug abuse, and murder.
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kuru
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I could give a shit what the subject matter of his 'songs' are, I think he's a talentless hack who only gets attention because he tries to be controversial.
I've listened to his 'music' (I suppose it loosely fits the defnition) and most of it could've been written better by a fifth grader.
Distaste because... well, even without considering content, it all sucks.
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Posted on: Apr. 19 2002,00:59 |
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At last!
I agree with Kuru on something!
I will sleep tonight with smile!
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TheTaxMan
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Also agree with Kuru.
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