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jim 
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Let me start by saying once again I'm drunk. Kuru, you know where I'm coming from.Incubus. You rock. Person Guy, you rule again. Kuru, I've already talked to you, and love you to. Brodie, fuck you and kiss my ass. This is to the rest of the people thinking about commenting on my origianl post. I don't take back anything. I'm sorry I mentioned kuru. I was drunk, upon reading her post again, it doesn't strike me the same as it did when I read it drunk. Me and her have already had it out, outside of the DetNet forum. I apoligized, she accepted. Leave it at that. ------------------
jim
Beauty is in the eye of the Beer Holder
Brews and Cues
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Michael
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quote:
Originally posted by darksol:
I realize, there are few and far between those who abstain, but I would like to mention that it is very hard to get an STD this way.
Well said, darksol.
An I would add that there are other reasons besides STDs for abstinence. If you ever decide to get married, for instance, are you going to want that person to mistrust you or be jealous of all the people who you had sex with before them? We have a divorce rate of 50\% in this country. Several of my friends have divorced parents; I'm sure the same is true for all of you. There is really no excuse for this; how can half the people who enter marriage believing that they have found someone that they want to be with always suddenly decide that they are wrong? Our culture is seriously messed up. Love is supposed to be based on mutual respect, not on lust. If you are just sleeping around for fun, without forming any serious relationships, you had better be quite happy with that lifestyle, because you're unlikely to ever find anything more permanent.
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RenegadeSnark
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Posted on: Sep. 18 2000,03:25 |
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quote:
Originally posted by Michael:
Well said, darksol.
An I would add that there are other reasons besides STDs for abstinence. If you ever decide to get married, for instance, are you going to want that person to mistrust you or be jealous of all the people who you had sex with before them?We have a divorce rate of 50\% in this country. Several of my friends have divorced parents; I'm sure the same is true for all of you. There is really no excuse for this; how can half the people who enter marriage believing that they have found someone that they want to be with always suddenly decide that they are wrong? Our culture is seriously messed up. Love is supposed to be based on mutual respect, not on lust. If you are just sleeping around for fun, without forming any serious relationships, you had better be quite happy with that lifestyle, because you're unlikely to ever find anything more permanent.
I wholly disagree. First off, abstinence has been tossed out the window, yeah, well, I agree there, and that STD's are hard to get. Divorce is not the result of 'jealousy of previous sexual partners' unless someone's head is fucked up. Everyone these days is stressed out with Corporate America, that leaves them hostile when they get home. Besides, in the old days a man was wholly in charge of a family and divorce rarely occurred due to law/strong religion. Lastly, I say go for lust. If there are chemicals in our body saying 'fuck her', and we get the opportunity, why the hell not? ------------------
Webbie/EIC
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brodie
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i agree. you're pretty fucked up, renegade... yeah, men used to "run" the household... in the 50's. sorry to pull you back into this crazy thing we like to call reality, but things aren't that way anymore. haven't been for a loooong time. women work just as much as men. and since the field, unfortunately, if still hostile to them, they probably work twice as hard as some men, too. but i agree w/ michael, i think you're the one who's fucked in the head if you think that. being able to control our urges is what separates us from the animals.... but don't let me cloud your vision, you think whatever you want. just promise me you'll never reproduce.------------------
brodie Now every face, it looks familiar...
then every face would melt away until now...
everyone, do you know, I know your deception?
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jrh1406
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One thing that i agree with what renegadeashark said was that back when the divorce rate was lower it was lower due to pressure from the church and the state, it was much harder to get a divorce, but people still did it. I think it's actually better now, my parents are divorced and i would rather see my mother succeed on her own than suffer married to my father, i love the man, but he's really not the most reliable person on the face of the planet and my mother was truly miserable when she was married to him.
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kuru
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michael: people get divorced for a lot of reasons, and i doubt very much that 'being jealous over previous partners' has anything to do with it. if someone distruts or is jealous simply because i've had sex before getting married, then they're definately not someone i would ever want to marry. my god, i couldn't imagine spending a month, let alone the rest of my life with someone that insecure and jealous. you're right about one thing, the divorce rate used to be lower. wives used to stay with their abusive or alcoholic husbands because it was HARD to get a divorce, and if they did get one, there'd be nowhere for a woman to go, especially if she had kids. do you really wanna see life go back to the way it was where a woman had no choice but to stay in an unhealthy marriage? men too, for that matter, because sometimes the woman is the abusive one. as for your last statement, what makes you assume that all non-virgins just sleep around and let lust control everything they do? you're acting like everyone out there who's ever had sex without being married is some hormone driven bed hopper. well, michael, virgins don't have the market cornered on love. even though i find it hard to believe that anyone can promise the rest of their life to anyone else, since people naturally go through huge changes in their lifetimes, i realize that my view of things isn't the only one. there are plenty of non-virgins out there who get married and stay married. it doesn't take a virgin to know that marriage is more than just a hop in the sack, and your little threat about all non-virgins never getting married or finding any kind of meaningful relationship sounds like the same kind of crap that small town churchies tried to beat into my head for years. maybe you don't believe in premarital sex, but you shouldn't be pointing judgemental fingers at those who don't share your beliefs and assuming that we're all just a bunch of bed-hoppers afraid of commitment. don't fall off that moral high horse while you look down at us michael. ------------------
kuru
'if your children ever found out how lame you are, they'd kill you in your sleep.' -frank zappa
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