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"Decl-A-ration"

Before you demand those around you be educated and speak English, you'd better be sure you can.

I sympathize with you Wolfguard, but you have to remember that common courtesy is what makes the world easier to live in.

Colorful euphemisms don't hide the truth, but pointing out the obvious isn't always right either.

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I completely agree with wolfguard. do you know how dumb i feel when i cant understand half the people in my school? most of the time people have to say things 3 or 4 times to get me to understand. Is it so much to expect to be able to be understood at the mcdonalds? i have a better chance of getting my order right when i bring my friend to say it in spanish. and dont even bother witha special order...my friend whos a vegetarian asked for a big mac with no meat, and they couldnt understand the concept...i think that since they do get to come to our country (and yes, i consider it a priveledge, i would feel the same way if i went to theirs) they shouldnt make us live with their handicap...of course this is quickly becoming a "stupid people piss me off" rant....so, yeah
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OK I have a comment on this topic of course. Im a soc major and just finished a class in immigration. I dont understand the need for assimilation theory. The united states prides itself on its diversity. Making it a meltingpot destroys that basic ideal. Immigrantion is what makes this country what is without it most of you wouldn't be here. Its pure ignorance to dislike immigrants because they dont conform to your standard of life. Why should they? Just because you think they should?



UUUUUUHHHHHH NOT AT ALL! THE USA PRIDES ITS SELF ON the good ol' melting pot theroy! If you have a diffrence you can't change its called cultural baggage and in the usa you're basicly fucked if you have got it, well if you are not a white english speaking male ages 18 - 40 your fucked in the usa! Canada is a country that truly prides itself on diversity and multiculturalism and just about all that stuff you talked about applies to Canada and not the united stares! A system of a cultural moasic, we take the best of everything and the rest dosn't matter cause it helps to build the whole picture of our nation and makes us stronger as a community, Canada depends on immigration to increase the population as the average female only has 1.6 children so diversity is taught as a vertue and dont tell me it is in the united states because i live in a border town and belive me things are not at all the same in the usa when it comes to diversity! Here all are acepted no matter what!

You may give me the old well look at new your all thoese cultures living in 1 place speech, well come to Toronto that is a real cultural moasic. For the people who are talking about feeling dumb about not understanding people, how do you think they feel! It is not them who should be forced to adhere to our rules and customs it is us who should llook at their's and see what is good other places in the world!
Also it isn't racism to dicriminate someone if they are from a certian nation, although u may find this hard tobelive American is not a race..nor is canadian, dutch, or english
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First of all I am fully cognizant that American isn't a race or even an ethnicity for that matter. And I agree with you on many points. However, America's beginnings go back to the issue of diversity. It is true that over the past century we have deviated from the original goal of promoting diversity amongst people. It just saddens me to think that people would rather have their culture and heritage obliterated rather than emphasized. Over all I believe Canada to be a better system- in fact I may move there one day. We'll see.
I also didn't mean to upset you. The comment wasn't about immigrants in the sense that it meant to mock the current system or even to say that America is better. In fact I would say of the other countries around the world America's system is the most biased. The comment was made generally about diversity among people in the United States and why racism/ethnocentrism shouldn't be tolerated.

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"I did the courtesy thing most of my life and got no place. Now im a complete asshole and most people leave me alone. Life is much more fun this way.

Courtesy makes the world easier for others to live in. people like me just make it more fun"

Well that and they also f*ck it up for the rest of us. You know why you feel that way? Probably because people with the same attitude did it to you somewhere down the line. This is a never ending chain of disrespect and disregard for each other- one of these days, someone has to be able to stand up and say "You know what? I got royally screwed over, and even though I want to just give up and screw the next joe who comes along, I'm going to try to be nice anyway, so that someday, when they have influence on someone else, that person won't become a jaded, bitter, mean spirited individual."

Of course, this requires people, for 13/100ths of a second, to think about something besides themselves. For a lot of people, the idea of EVER making a personal sacrifice for the betterment of others is absurd.

And people wonder why there is so much pain and suffering in the world today? I always think to myself "How could they wonder?"

Back to the topic of Immigration- As a Canadian, I see the various perspectives of it all. I feel for immigrants, and I think that many Americans (and Canadians alike) don't appreciate that many of these so-called "no good dirty bums" have had lives so difficult that our shiny-G7 pampered asses would never even be able to compare. Yes, we are all priveledged. Even Bob Smith, the typical minimum wage bus driver in New York, is a well-to do in the global scale of things. Canada and the US is like the Beverly Hills of the world.

Wow, now I'm getting WAY off topic. I think that the fact that I have a Calculus final exam tomorrow, and I should have got to bed three hours ago is lingering, and I can't concentrate. I think I'll just end this excrutiatingly long post here and hit the hay. Excuse me for any incoherence.

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Im saving my "A"s for later so i dont run out

I did the courtesy thing most of my life and got no place. Now im a complete asshole and most people leave me alone. Life is much more fun this way.

Courtesy makes the world easier for others to live in. people like me just make it more fun

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Ok, so being an asshole is fun for me. 90\% of the human race is my plaything anyway because they are so fucking stupid. Its great when just a few words can make a person waste 2 trips to a bbs when he realy does not have the time. This i find funny.

As for the language thing, if you were to move to any other country you would have to learn the language or you would never be able to get anything done. Just try to get a german drivers licence when you dont speak german. Try to get a french work visa without speaking french. Try to get anything in GB without speaking english(this is second hand but the guy that lived there told me it is so).

Funny thing is they have no problem taking our money, as long as they can ask for it in their own language.

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Ok, so being an asshole is fun for me. 90\% of the human race is my plaything anyway because they are so fucking stupid. Its great when just a few words can make a person waste 2 trips to a bbs when he realy does not have the time. This i find funny.

As for the language thing, if you were to move to any other country you would have to learn the language or you would never be able to get anything done. Just try to get a german drivers licence when you dont speak german. Try to get a french work visa without speaking french. Try to get anything in GB without speaking english(this is second hand but the guy that lived there told me it is so).

Funny thing is they have no problem taking our money, as long as they can ask for it in their own language.


Chrissy is the coolest and wolfguard you were raised wrong dude!

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as a good AP American history student, i feel its my duty to point out that america was not founded on the issue of diversity at all, but rather on the fact that we were tired of being britain's bitch. it was about fair control over our own destiny, and although itd be nice to think it was about diversity, it really had jack to do with it.
please dont argue with me about this, i know my american history.
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Chrissy is the coolest and wolfguard you were raised wrong dude!

Thats what happens when your raised by wolves. Its not wrong, if your a wolf, but the sheep fail to see the humor in being eaten.

And IMHO all the women here are the coolest.

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