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Well...I'll post here as long as the thread isn't dead :-) As long as people is posting stuff in it...

Sithiee, it's a bit lame to just go out and tell people that they shouldn't talk bad about a movie because you like it. The plot of the movie isn't new. It's been told soooo many times in soooo many movies/books/whatever. And the facts that it's too far out physically doesn't make it better. The acting suxx too, but noone has brought that up yet. What makes the movie good is the humor and the tech stuff. That kung fu scene left my jaw hanging by the floor for a long time after the movie was over. But other than that the movie is just another piece in the dusty collection of b-movies.

People is making the movie more than it is... In my oppinion the story basically sux0rs. If yours is different it's fine with me. Just don't tell me what to say or feel about the movie. Because I'll say what I mean and not what you've heard in some latenight review on the tv.

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I didnt say dont talk bad about, as far as im concerned, you can say just about whatever the fuck you want to about. Im saying that when you disect the physics of a movie down to the point where you were, you take all the fun out of it. If you look at it, every movie has faults, there arent any that dont, but that doesnt mean you needa talk about them. The more you disect a movie, the more you suck the fun out of watching it. Its just bad form
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I don't agree with you there...It's the same thing as saying don't talk about the bad parts of the movie, because that would ruin it. And it's not just a little detail in the movie we're talking about. It's the whole plot that's build up on wrong terms. And that sucks. Sorry if it hurts your feelings, but it does!
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PostIcon Posted on: Jun. 04 2000,15:35 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

I think the best Humies vs Robots war I saw was Terminator 2. Sure it was all Arnie being 'Come and get me!' but I think the plot behind the thing was real good and if you ever read the book for T2, it shit all over the movie.

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Sure it's a good movie, but for some people it just doesn't work. If they had said in a long time ago galaxy far far away where man equals duracell, we'll have a story that doesn't confict with everything we know. I hate when writers makes movies and haven't got a clue about what they're talking about. Like in lot's of movies where they're using chemical terms. I'm a chemist soon and I laugh at them because they seem fucking brainless when saying it out loud.

And why the hell should we stop and accept people making shitty movie-scripts? It's like saying feed me shit, and I'll learn to like it.

Star Trek is actually made by some physics guy, and have actually stuff in it that could be real. I don't believe in pervert robots!

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the matrix is one of the oldest stories of all time. it's a sci-fi version of plato's allegory of the caves. the people that only see their reality, the person(s) that escape that reality, the attempt of the original reality to destroy the escapees for trying to tell them what they don't see. it makes much more sense if you know the allegory...

as for plots being told over and over again, didn't shakespeare say that there are only four basic plots? power, lust, revenge, and (i think) patriotism. or something like the seven deadly sins (go kevin spacey) minus gluttony, sloth, and, wrath?

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The Matrix had quite a few good elements, I'd say its my second favorite movie, after Fight Club. BTW, someone should get a thread going on debate about that movie.

My favorite things in the Matrix:
1. The Kung Fu Fighting. Duh.
2. The Gun Fights.
3. The Big Rack of Guns.
4. The Bitchin Helicopter Gun
5. Cool Graphics of robots and stuff from the 'desert of the real world'
6. All the awesome quotes

The last item is by far the best part. Before I run any race in track, me and my friend joke about there being no spoon, or no race, or whatever. And don't forget the red pill, or the white rabbit. So many cool lines, so little time...

That's all folks...

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One more thing - what is THE Trilogy? It's not star wars, I'm think hitchhiker's guide? Help me out here...
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This will teach me to be brief, third post in a row

Everything is all the same plot, its just variations. There are only so many things that get our attention, and its just a matter of putting in twists and combining these things in different ways.

Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet was actually a newer version of an ancient Roman story, Piramus and Thisbe (sp definitely). And the Aeneid, supposedly Rome's finest work? Ripped almost entirely from The Odyssey and The Iliad. Nothing changes, just rearranges...

Korn, I believe.

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Number 4!

To whomever was bashing us for overanalyzing the Matrix:

It's not so much that we're analyzing the matrix, we're just using it is a jumping off point for discussing artifial intelligence, sentience, nuclear fusion, the universe, etc. The matrix has provided the topic, and now the debate seems to have strayed. We are intelligent people who have a lot of views and theories that average people wouldnt understand, so we come here, and when an opportunity to speak about what has been festering in our heads arises, we take advantage of it.

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