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kuru 
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Posted on: Jun. 04 2002,12:11 |
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You know, I'm really sick of hearing all this 'profiling' shit.
We know for a fact that all of the hijackers were middle eastern Muslims (most of them from Saudi Arabia) that practiced a particularly racist and nasty form of Islam called Wahaabi.
If the FBI and the CIA want to track middle eastern Muslims at flight schools, touring nuclear reactors, scubadiving around heavily trafficked bridges and tunnels, then by all means, fucking go for it.
If they want to monitor 'Death to America' websites to see if some schmuck is posting messages about how they plan to kill all westerners, then happy hunting boys.
We find out NOW that if the FBI and CIA had shared proper information and actually paid attention to what they did have, we would've had several of the hijackers in jail before 11 Sept. We would've been on the lookout for illegal aliens from the middle east or middle eastern men on student visas at US flight schools... men who didn't want to learn to take off or land planes, just to aim them like missiles.
A little fucking racial profiling on 10 Sept could've meant 11 Sept was just another Tuesday.
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CatKnight
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Posted on: Jun. 04 2002,20:26 |
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one of the big problems with illegal aliens is the INS. they are totally incompetent. if the INS did their job, the FBI wouldn't have to.
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Pravus Angelus
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Posted on: Jun. 07 2002,04:51 |
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Kuru I don't think anybody was talking about racial profiling. The issues with the PATRIOT act are things like disregarding the 4th amendment (sec 213), or allowing the FBI to force ISPs to hand over internet tracking information without a warrant! (secs 210, 211). See sec 217 for more government spying without even a court order.
http://www.eff.org/Privacy....ll.html <-- now that looks like domestic terrorism!
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demonk
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Posted on: Jun. 07 2002,06:14 |
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That's why I dislike this act sooooo much! It's removing pieces of the Bill Of Rights! It doesn't just come out and remove them, but it bypasses a lot of the spirt of the laws. The whole purpose behind things like the 4th amendment was to prevent government agents from just coming over and randomly searching your home. But now, all it takes is the agents to "think" there is a reason to search your place, and they don't even have to tell you. Hell, they could come in and search your house and leave without you ever knowing, at it will all be legal! WTF!!!!!
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CatKnight
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Posted on: Jun. 07 2002,18:30 |
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heh
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kuru
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Posted on: Jun. 07 2002,18:52 |
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I read the PATRIOT Act. It's not the piece of salvation some are calling it, but nor is it the devil that the doomsdayers think it is.
It's yet another thing that will make some people feel good, some people feel afraid, and most people feel nothing.
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CatKnight
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Posted on: Jun. 07 2002,18:55 |
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three cheers for apathy!
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yay... 
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kuru
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Posted on: Jun. 07 2002,19:40 |
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Have you actually read the whole thing?
Not just an editorial on it, but the actual law itself?
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Pravus Angelus
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Posted on: Jun. 07 2002,19:52 |
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Personally, no I haven't read the entire thing. But I have read the sections I mentioned, which do have the implications I was worried about. Quite frankly, that's more than enough for me to want the bill canned. I like the 4th ammendment.
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