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ic0n0 
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Posted on: Jul. 22 2002,23:23 |
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| Quote (Necromancer @ 22 July 2002,08:22) | | atheists are just as ignorant as someone who beleives in religion |
Ummm no..... There are two kinds of Atheists, Plain Atheists who claim to not know the truth, and Radical atheists who claim to know that there is no god. A Normal atheist does not claim that there is no god, but no reason to believe in one. That needs to be established. I do not believe in god, that doesn't however mean that god doesn't exist, it means I have no reason to believe; it's not the same thing! Do you see that? I do not claim to know the truth nor do normal atheists; we just lack belief because of lack of evidence. Once again a radical atheist KNOWS there is no god, claims to know truth. An agnostic neither believes nor disbelieves, I do not believe therefore I am an atheist, I am not saying there is no GOD, I am saying I have no reason to BELIVE IN ONE. TWO KINDS OF ATHEISTS!
Edited by ic0n0 on Jan. 01 1970,01:00
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"I don't have the evidence to prove that God doesn't exist, but I so strongly suspect he doesn't that I don't want to waste my time." (Isaac Asimov)
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a2n3d7y
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Posted on: Jul. 22 2002,23:45 |
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| Quote | TWO KINDS OF ATHEISTS!
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Whaaaaaaa?
C'mon, has to be done:
a·the·ist (th-st)
n.
One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God or gods.
atheist \A"the*ist\, n. [Gr. ? without god; 'a priv. + ? god: cf. F. ath['e]iste.] 1. One who disbelieves or denies the existence of a God, or supreme intelligent Being.
2. A godless person. [Obs.]
Syn: Infidel; unbeliever. 
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Bozeman
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2002,01:16 |
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Hence why I am agnostic.
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Necromancer
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2002,01:35 |
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i guess i'm agluestick too.
kind of been a gradual change from my christian upbringing but seein as how i never really felt the true christian way of living was right i guess it was only natural.
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ic0n0
I have become Death, Destroyer of Worlds
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2002,01:43 |
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| Quote (a2n3d7y @ 22 July 2002,09:45) | a·the·ist (th-st)
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One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God or gods. |
Disbelieves or Denies. Both are atheists but one lacks belief and one denies existence, not the same things are they? That is the Difference between the two types of atheists. The Definition clearly shows that one can be an atheist if they if they have one or the other Characteristics, but the Characteristics are not the same.
Edited by ic0n0 on Jan. 01 1970,01:00
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Darth Liberus
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2002,02:06 |
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ag·nos·tic n.
1a. One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God.
b. One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism.
while all the atheists go around patting themselves on the back for not being brainwashed, we agnostic types believe that it is impossible to answer the question. It's kind of like saying "What is the value of x?" without providing any equation for it.
we're considered lame-ass fence sitters by atheists... too wuss to admit that THERE IS NO GOD...
religious folk generally accept us, because all we're really saying is that religion requires faith - which they already know.
personally, I see plenty of evidence that creative forces exist, that they are fundamental components of our universe, and that their behavior is non-deterministic... a "God" of sorts, but nothing like the Judeo-Christian concept.
I don't see much evidence to support the hard determinism that atheists so readily embrace, but I do see a lot of evidence that seems to disprove it, starting with the behavior of quantum particles. It's possible that their behavior could be deterministic but I don't think so.
Going on the evidence, I'd say the Hindus and the Buddhists have the most accurate depiction of the nature of things.
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Necromancer
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2002,02:15 |
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apart from the whole reincarnation thing i.e coming back as somethign else.... erm no. YOU as in say Darth liverous coming back as anothe rbeing thats not going to happen.
YOU as in a couple of you atoms being rebuilt into a leaf in a few thousand years and becoming part of another lifeform thats more realistic.
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^Oni^
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| Quote (Wiley @ 22 July 2002,06:57) | | But Buddhist extreamists have blown up subways in Japan. There are wacked people in every religion who do not express the opinions held by the majority of their faith. |
Nay lad, Shinto extremists... very very different. There was a big stink about that during the Meiji Reformation in the 1800s.
I totally agree with the second part though.
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Mico
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2002,12:24 |
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I am a broad Agnostic because I think. I without anything concrete, conditions of the world and religions that function much like mafias. I believe that there is an evolved being, but it has yet to be defined.
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Jynx
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2002,22:34 |
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Wow, I can feel all of the agnostic open-minded love.
m00.
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