Sub atomic stuff is so annoying that you might aswell see a proton as a neutron and an electron together anyway, it saves time.

Anyway, lets talk about the good shit. Super massive black holes! And when they collide! could you work out the energy released by the collision please, incubus, please?
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Originally posted by incubus:
Thats called the Chandresekar limit

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That it is...

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Originally posted by LazyGit:
Yeah, but in real world (space) conditions the star would really need to be over 5 times stellar mass to have a chance of turning into a black hole.

Sub atomic stuff is so annoying that you might aswell see a proton as a neutron and an electron together anyway, it saves time.

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Depends on the conditions in which the star dies. I'm not an astrophysicist, but 1.7-3 solar masses for an upper limit for the formation of neutron stars is a large range, so I wouldn't be suprised if larger stars did form neutron stars instead of black holes, but I don't think you'd need >5 solar masses to have any chance, just >2 would be enough.

Or a neutron as a proton plus an electron maybe? Just because something decays into something else, doesn't mean that it is composed of soley of the decay products. In order for it to decay, it must be energetically favourable. This means that energy is 'lost' in the transformation, so you can't say that a neutron is a proton plus an electron.

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This message has been edited by masher on February 26, 2001 at 03:30 AM

Very large stars explode though so they're going to throw off a lot of their mass in the supernova. The star's got to have enough mass to be able to lose a lot of it but have enough left to leave its gravitational radius large enough for it to be able to collapse through it.
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but since science deals really poorly with singularities, gotta wonder, are there white holes out there?

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Originally posted by kuru:
black holes are pretty interesting buggers... all that bending of space time and all. who the hell even knows what would happen if a person went into one?

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He would get really really small...

This message has been edited by Wolfguard on February 28, 2001 at 05:40 AM

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Originally posted by kuru:
but since science deals really poorly with singularities, gotta wonder, are there white holes out there?

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From what i remember. a particle of any size can come into existance from nothing at any given point at any given time. If a particle that has enough mass could start to under go gravitational collapse causing a chain reaction that would throw matter in all directions(explosion). If the conditions that caused that particle to come into existance in the first place stayed at that location it would continue to throw matter untill the conditions changed.

I think this is what is called a white hole.

now if i could remember where that came from i would be doing good. It may be from collage. All i know is it sounds smart so it cant be an original thought of mine

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