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Wiley 
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Posted on: May 30 2002,16:29 |
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Beldurin,
How far are you going with the Cisco Certs? And, do you have a good lab to work with? I just went as far as CCNA (basically the lowest cert you can get) but took a bunch of specialized classes like MCNS (Managing Cisco Network Security) and VPN/Remote Access Solutions that were put together by Cisco and really liked their lab projects. I know three CCIEs, but damnit who's got that kinda time. Cisco has some of the most compleate solutions around, so their certs are still pretty golden ...not like 3com or Intel's certs that can't really give you access to the tools to build an end to end solution. Even if Cisco is not the best (Foundry still makes a better faster switch) they at least give you good quality down the line. But damn I love the PIX for a firewall ...not just NAT, but PAT as well. A friend of mine at Eeye used to spend all kinds of time trying to break into mine. Checkpoint woulda kept him out for about ten minutes.
Well ....that's enough geek rambling to get me though the day.
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Beldurin
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Posted on: May 30 2002,19:32 |
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| Quote (Wiley @ 30 May 2002,10:29) | Beldurin,
How far are you going with the Cisco Certs? And, do you have a good lab to work with? I just went as far as CCNA (basically the lowest cert you can get) but took a bunch of specialized classes like MCNS (Managing Cisco Network Security) and VPN/Remote Access Solutions that were put together by Cisco and really liked their lab projects. I know three CCIEs, but damnit who's got that kinda time. Cisco has some of the most compleate solutions around, so their certs are still pretty golden ...not like 3com or Intel's certs that can't really give you access to the tools to build an end to end solution. Even if Cisco is not the best (Foundry still makes a better faster switch) they at least give you good quality down the line. But damn I love the PIX for a firewall ...not just NAT, but PAT as well. A friend of mine at Eeye used to spend all kinds of time trying to break into mine. Checkpoint woulda kept him out for about ten minutes.
Well ....that's enough geek rambling to get me though the day. |
Probably taking the CCNA and CCDA next month. Starting semester 1 of the CCNP curriculum next month also. I doubt that I'll get anything higher than the CCNP if I even go that far...I have no desire to be an IE.
As for facilities, my graduate program is the CATC (Cisco Area Training Academy) for the state of Indiana. In other words, we train all of the people that teach Cisco in the region. I have access to all the cool shiznit. Plus, as the manager of the network integration lab, I get access to all of the even cooler geek toys. (i.e. Cisco 7506, 5000, Sun Solaris 220Rs, Netra T1s and X1s, gig switches, etc.). 
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CNCJake
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Posted on: May 30 2002,20:37 |
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Dude! Wiley, you have a freind at eeye? They make the retina and iris software right? Very good software, way expensive though. If you have some connections hook me up. Beldurin, i dont know if you thought i was joking about the "Gnat Box," but its pretty cool. check it out here.
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Beldurin
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Posted on: May 30 2002,21:36 |
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| Quote (CNCJake @ 30 May 2002,14:37) | | Beldurin, i dont know if you thought i was joking about the "Gnat Box," but its pretty cool. check it out here. |
Ahhh...I thought it was a linux play on words. Like how they put the gn from gnu in place of n like in gnome, and iagno, etc (can't think of good examples right now), so you just called your linux NAT box a GNAT box. I thought it was a funny play on words. Doesn't seem quite so cool now, somehow.
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Wiley
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Posted on: May 30 2002,21:53 |
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| Quote (CNCJake @ 30 May 2002,12:37) | | Dude! Wiley, you have a freind at eeye? They make the retina and iris software right? Very good software, way expensive though. |
Yes, I knew the guys there before Eeye even existed ....when it was just the bastard child of eCompany. I once hacked into Marc's (the head hacker) home computer ...that was the crowning achievment in my hacking career. Then he proceeded to 0wn my ass which wasn't too fun.
Three of my friends just got jobs there. I could probably hook you up with a job there easier then I could get you a copy of Retina. You can get a copy of one of the betas by passing my Hacker Test though
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Posted on: May 30 2002,22:18 |
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| Quote (Beldurin @ 30 May 2002,02:32) | | Quote (Wiley @ 30 May 2002,10:29) | Beldurin,
How far are you going with the Cisco Certs? And, do you have a good lab to work with? I just went as far as CCNA (basically the lowest cert you can get) but took a bunch of specialized classes like MCNS (Managing Cisco Network Security) and VPN/Remote Access Solutions that were put together by Cisco and really liked their lab projects. I know three CCIEs, but damnit who's got that kinda time. Cisco has some of the most compleate solutions around, so their certs are still pretty golden ...not like 3com or Intel's certs that can't really give you access to the tools to build an end to end solution. Even if Cisco is not the best (Foundry still makes a better faster switch) they at least give you good quality down the line. But damn I love the PIX for a firewall ...not just NAT, but PAT as well. A friend of mine at Eeye used to spend all kinds of time trying to break into mine. Checkpoint woulda kept him out for about ten minutes.
Well ....that's enough geek rambling to get me though the day. |
Probably taking the CCNA and CCDA next month. Starting semester 1 of the CCNP curriculum next month also. I doubt that I'll get anything higher than the CCNP if I even go that far...I have no desire to be an IE.
As for facilities, my graduate program is the CATC (Cisco Area Training Academy) for the state of Indiana. In other words, we train all of the people that teach Cisco in the region. I have access to all the cool shiznit. Plus, as the manager of the network integration lab, I get access to all of the even cooler geek toys. (i.e. Cisco 7506, 5000, Sun Solaris 220Rs, Netra T1s and X1s, gig switches, etc.). |
I am in semester three of Cisco, for the CCNA. I am loving it. We have a nice lab but nothing like you get to play with Beld. Must be nice lol. But anyways, I am thinking about going a step further. I figured while I am bored I would get an A+ and N+ just for the letters (lol) don't know if I want MSCE or not. Still debating that sucker. But anyways... just figured I would geek chat once today lol.....
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Wiley
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Posted on: May 30 2002,23:19 |
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MCSE has helped me a bunch with getting jobs and it's easy to get, I would recommend it for anybody. A+ and N+ are never taken seriously, they are worth taking just for the hell of it but nobody got a job because they were A+ certified.
Most interesting comment from an IT director once was "ahh ...CCNA ...unfortunately we don't use Novell here, we're a straight TCP/IP shop. Do you have any experience with TCP/IP?" I don't know what he was directing ...didn't have the heart to tell him Cisco was not just the city by the bay.
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DRUFER
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Posted on: May 31 2002,01:26 |
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| Quote (CNCJake @ 29 May 2002,22:51) | | Repeat after me. "there is no router other than Cisco, there is no firewall other than Cisco, Cisco owns my body and is the ruler of the universe blah blah blah....." |
I think thats why i got confused....im halfway done with my CCNA and i havent had much exposure to anything else network-wise. What i gotta do is figure out what i wanna do in collage after i earn the certificate.
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Wiley
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Posted on: May 31 2002,05:12 |
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| Quote (DRUFER @ 30 May 2002,17:26) | | What i gotta do is figure out what i wanna do in collage after i earn the certificate. |
I like to take a bunch of pictures and glue them onto a posterboard. Something that expresses a youth of today attitude. Then I add some glitter. It makes one hell of a collage.
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CNCJake
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Posted on: May 31 2002,12:32 |
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HAHAHA! Wiley is my new hero two post in a row that had be laughing my ass off! thanks.
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