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Nicholas Cage said it best in Raising Arizona, "Well it's all in who knows who, and then over hear is favoritism" am I right or am I right? of all the jobs I've had, none of them I've interviewed/applied for. That's the way it works isn't it? Oh, and Wolf, have you ever heard of the Dilbert Princepal(sp)?

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I love dice there old school and they always come through. i didnt know they had an mp5ks
is that a supressed mp5k?
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Yup, they make a MP5 with a built in sound suppressor. Now if you played Rainbow 6 / Rogue Spear you would know that ;)

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I can't even get a job anywhere near computers because of my lack of qualifications. The fact I can strip down and rebuild almost any system in 30mins means nothing apparently, and the fact that I've been taking computers apart and repairing and servicing them since I was 12 also means nothing these days. If you dont have the paper, you got no job.

On that note though, I know a guy that had a BSC Hons Pass at Computer Science, but when it came to anything other than turning them on, and shutting them down correctly, he was lost.

Just goes to show what the paper means doesnt it..


I know your position. When I was in High School I did work for the school since I was 16 and when I moved to a larger city to go to college I applied for a lot of places and since I didn't have certifications they looked down on me. What you need to find is a place that looks on experience that will pay for the certifications. That's what I did. I found a job at a retail store that judges hires on experience and will pay for the certifications for you. There are many places out there that require certifications but that is not the only thing they look for! It's certifications and experience because everyone hates paper techs.

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My personal favorite:

Just being a female in the computer world.

Yes, women do use computers for things other than shopping or email. Hello.

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Ya know I agree with the paper vs. experience thing.... I'm a year away from getting my BS in Mech. Engineering. The problem is after taking mech. Eng. courses I find myself disliking them more and more. Yet I continue to thrive in learning more about computers, networking, etc...

I was working at a local company as a computer tech. They laid me off two Fridays ago because there wasn't enough work. Well I have been TRYING to find a computer job again for the past week and of course, because I have NO papers I have NO job. I've even tried engineering firms, and I run into they don't want people for summer help or they want someone with more experience. So I'm screwed no matter what I do.....

To top things off, my roommate got a job with John Deere traveling up and down the east coast, with all his expenses paid, and making I think ร/hr. Yes he is book smart, but day-to-day things he struggles with.....

I don't really want to get started on the common sense issue...that's a whole 'nother ball game...

Just had to add my two cents...

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One thing that came to my attention today. If you have been looking for a job other there you may have run across the phrase,"Experience Required". And you keep looking and all the jobs require experience. the question is

HOW DO YOU GET A JOB IF ALL OF THEM REQUIRE EXPERIENCE?

Just apply some common sense to the question.

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Having a degree (or any other qualification) doesn't always mean you'll be good at a job.
That doesn't mean a degree can't be useful.
I have a few friend's who are on degree course's over at Sheffield Halam University and one or two are just bumming around and not making the most the resources that are open to them.
From what I have seen, they have a massive library (damn bitch library takes up a building the size of the college I used to go too ), but on the other hand I see other people doing the work, spending a lot of time revising and shit.
I think a degree can be a double-edged sword.

After I left college I managed to get set up with a summer job working on the Y2k project for a pretty company. A few weeks later they offered me the job full time.
On one hand I have a job offer, not excellent money (£12k a year, 18ys old, Project Admin.) but some opportunities.
On the other hand I have the chance to go to University (A degree, Women, Drugs and Beer: Not necessarily in that order).
I took the money. I don't regret it, but one thing I do know is this: -

If I was to go to University now, after these past two years working for an IT company, I think I would be able to do so much better then if I had gone straight from School -> College -> University.
I have changed/matured/developed in a way that I don't think would have possible if I had gone to Uni.
Chances are I would be saying the same shit about University if I had turned down this job

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You know what, it's not that hard to get certified if you are really are experienced. Its worth the 赨 to get the A+ cert. I walked in and took both tests with just a token amount of studying (a couple of days) and pretty much aced them (over 95\% on both). They're mostly just common sense questions.

Why bother, you ask? Well I was getting ű.25/hour at a local computer shop, once I showed my boss the paper (A+), my next paycheck was @ พ.50/hour! All because I took the time to officially confirm what I already knew.

Taking the tests didn't make me a better technician. It just made me a happier and more well-paid one!

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Problem is their are way to many people with paper that have no clue. You got your paper the right way. Experience first then study then test.

Most people do the study then test and never do the first part. I know of 3 people with an A+ cert that never even owned a computer. This is bad. MCSEs are the same way. Get the books and pass the test. I have been doing NT stuff for 4 years now and im just now going for my MCSE. With 4 years of exp under my belt this is dirt simple. Want to realy blow your mind? Go for your CCNE. Its the Cisco Cert. Network Eng. It will make your head explode, and i hear you have to go to CA to take the test and all they do is fuck with you to see if you can handle it.

Congrats on your A+ and the fact you did it right!


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