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CatKnight 
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Posted on: Jul. 17 2002,17:20 |
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I started this thread with two things in mind that the government HAS fixed and I wanted to see if you guys could get them before flaming me to death. I guess not. demonk did think of the treasury department one which I didn't think of so he gets a cookie.
btw I'm not going to admit I'm wrong just because someone makes a good argument that I can't counter. You can persuede me to consider your point of view more closely by presenting good arguments though. The only reason I would admit to being wrong is if I made a flat-out mistake or posted some bad info or something.
Edited by CatKnight on Jan. 01 1970,01:00
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Bozeman
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Posted on: Jul. 17 2002,21:17 |
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| Quote (CatKnight @ 16 July 2002,11:44) | | oh well DSL turned back into ignorant-prop0ganda-dude again. it was fun while it lasted anyway. |
CK on his not-so-high horse again. You were expecting people to not flame you, when you flame others? Of course people are going to flame you! This is DETNET! You've been here long enough to know that every thread is a flamewar waiting to happen.
And I think the anitmonopoly-antitrust point I brought up is a valid thing the government has "fixed."
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CatKnight
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Posted on: Jul. 17 2002,21:35 |
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there's a difference though.
CK: you're a fool! here's why!
DSL: *grumble*
Jim: you're a moron!
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CK: *grumble*
as for the antitrust thing, looking at several examples of where government has intervened and failed (california power), and cases where the government should have intervened but didn't (microsoft), leads me to believe that the government has certainly not "fixed" the problem of monopolies.
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jim
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Posted on: Jul. 17 2002,22:23 |
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Actually I called you a Jackass. And here's why!™ Even though I already stated this.
All along I always felt people were flaming you for no reason (not including the 1,000's of one sentence stupid ass topics you create), but now I see why. You say stupid shit for no other reason than to stir up trouble. Which makes you the troll, by definition.
So yeah, suck it.
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Dysorderia
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Posted on: Jul. 17 2002,22:54 |
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| Quote (CatKnight @ 17 July 2002,16:35) | CK: you're a fool! here's why!
DSL: *grumble*
Jim: you're a moron!
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CK: *grumble*
as for the antitrust thing, looking at several examples of where government has intervened and failed (california power), and cases where the government should have intervened but didn't (microsoft), leads me to believe that the government has certainly not "fixed" the problem of monopolies. |
surprise surprise, CK is putting words in other people's mouths yet again...
regarding microsoft; the government had been building evidence for that case since 1992, so they weren't intervening for a reason.
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Wiley
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| Quote (CatKnight @ 15 July 2002,22:08) | | so, uh, what did they fix? people still smoke, the cigarette companies already lost billions, it seems like a lose-lose situation to me... |
(sorry for being late and all ...I was away for a few days working so I can pay even more taxes)
Ok ...there was an out of control problem of people being able to sue tobacco companies for the cancer that their own choices caused. The government had to find a way to stop the people from trying to sue the tobacco companies without infringing on their right to smoke (so they couldn't just outloaw smoking and ban tobacco). They came up with a fairly reasonable way to fine tobacco companies for trying to hide the problems their product can cause, prevent future lawsuits, protect freedoms and protect the future earnings of the tobacco companies (they paid a heafty price, but now they are in the clear forever ....huge upside for tobacco). I see it as win win.
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demonk
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Posted on: Jul. 18 2002,16:37 |
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| Quote (CatKnight @ 17 July 2002,13:35) | | as for the antitrust thing, looking at several examples of where government has intervened and failed (california power), and cases where the government should have intervened but didn't (microsoft), leads me to believe that the government has certainly not "fixed" the problem of monopolies. |
Sorry, I just couldn't bite my lip and not address this.
The real cause of trouble down in California was Enron, not the government. They were just screwing over the state and trying to get more money. (I know it's more complicated then that, but that is the bottem of what happened)
As for MS, you can thank Dubya for that one (actually, didn't matter who would have won the election, MS covered both sides  ). Anyone else find it odd that the government dropped it's punishment procedings after the administration change? Could there have been some pressure from high up in the new administration to leave MS alone? That's not a failing of the government, that's the failing of our leader. The laws are there to punish MS, but they aren't being exercised.
Just had to address those points. And thanks for the cookie, it was tasty. Now, do you care to share with us the two problems you already had in mind when you started this thread?
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CatKnight
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Posted on: Jul. 19 2002,19:30 |
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slavery and jim crowe laws were the big ones I came up with. I'm surprised none of you socially-enlightned liberals thought of that one. i guess you're all a bunch of racists, huh?
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demonk
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Posted on: Jul. 19 2002,20:50 |
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How could you say we are racist? Seriously, I'd like to hear your thought process that arrived at that conclusion. I am very far from racist. I'm a huge supporter of equal rights (not handouts though), for all nationalities, creeds, origins, and genders. So I'd like to know how you can conclude I'm a racist.
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Bozeman
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Posted on: Jul. 19 2002,21:09 |
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I think he meant it as a joke...
I didn't even think of slavery, because it's still around. Need proof? Check out who the working poor in the inner cities are composed of. Slavery isn't gone, it's changed.
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