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Being a Christian myself, I'm more worried about those of 'us' living in the U.S. than those abroad. Sure, they're dying but the church thrives even and perhaps especially under persecution.
What I'm worried about is damage to the church from influences in American culture. First, I'm seeing a definite shift away from religion in general in the average citizen. Worse, I've actually seen a lot of anti-church and anti-religious sentiment lately(most notably a thread on the Doomworld forum).
While that's all well and good, I've seen an increasing number of conflicts within the churches as well. Granted, religion's always been a battlefield, but it seems that there's a lot of infighting lately.
Personally, I think a lot of it comes from people trying to change and 'popularize' the church. Make it more PC, acceptable to outside views, and get more people into the church by any means.
So yeah, I'm a little bothered by the whole thing.

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Wiley, do you just throw your brain out the window when you sit down at your computer or what?

No, it's only when he goes into <CK> mode.  I thought that was quite obvious.

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I don't know where to find numbers on that though because the liberal media in all their PC intellectualism doesn't want the average joe to know what Islam really stands for.

Watch Fox News, that's about as far from liberal as you can get, and not be talk radio.

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yeah but fox news isn't really conservative, it's just in the middle. you guys just think they are right wing because you think the left-wing is in the center!

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yeah but fox news isn't really conservative, it's just in the middle. you guys just think they are right wing because you think the left-wing is in the center!

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Yeah, CK, is there a defined scale you're using for this?  I think it -might- be a little subjective.

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Here's a tip for everyone.  Sit down with Islam's version of the Bible and read it.  That is Islam.  Anyone doing anything differently isn't Islamic.  They are something else pretending to be Islam.  Same goes for Christianity.  Too many people in this country say they are Christian when they act like anything but.  They think that believing in Jesus is enough to to make them Christians.  I say that unless you actively try to live your life as layed down in your Holy Book, then you aren't really part of that religion.  You just want a label so you can feel like you are part of the "community".  That's why I don't even pretend to be religious.  I don't agree with what most religions say, so I'm not going to just chose one so I can say to someone "Ya, I'm <instert religion here>ist".  But that's just me.

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I was raised Christian, went to church 2 hours every Sunday, been surrounded by bible thumpers and I actually met several real Christians.

They never talk about it.

They live it, and I figure it out by their behaviour.

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PostIcon Posted on: Jul. 15 2002,02:30 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

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Western society is based on christian ethics. a lot of stuff like celibacy was how society interpreted what the Bible said. Therefore to say you need to live you life like it was 1600 is silly as some people do, but demonk is right on how people say they're Christians when they aren't they just don't believe it but pretend to cos they have this slight belief in god and such and think that self denial will do the rest.

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I think there have been some 2 million christians murdered throughout africa and the middle east in the last several years.

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I don't know where to find numbers on that though because the liberal media in all their PC intellectualism doesn't want the average joe to know what Islam really stands for.


So by your admitted lack of fact we are to assume that you just pulled the two million number out of your ass?
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