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Beldurin 
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2002,04:12 |
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| Quote (demonk @ 22 July 2002,17:53) | | If he did, he would just make the next release of the Linux Kernel non GPL and start selling it. See, if you are the original author, you can do whatever you like with the source. He can take the next version, make it all closed, and sell it to Redhat, Mandrake, Suse, etc, etc and never provide code. That's his right. The fact he doesn't says that he really doesn't want to. |
Nope...I don't think that's how it works...once it's released under the GPL, it's under the GPL. And do you think Red Hat et al would start paying for it? I doubt it. They've had a good free ride so far. My guess is that they'd just hire their own developer teams and start charging more. Linus wouldn't get his $$, and Linux would stop being free and open source.
besides, so many other people have worked on the kernel, he can't really claim it as his property...he manages the process, but he's not the sole developer anymore.
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Estėrion
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2002,06:00 |
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| Quote (Wiley @ 22 July 2002,15:13) | GNU is Not Unix
I don't get it ...the G is for GNU, but the acronym is G-N-U ..can you do that?
/me gets out his copy of "Rules of Acronyms" |
... "PHP = PHP Hypertext Preprocesor"
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Estėrion
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2002,06:13 |
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Well. I kinda knew the story of GNU(I also knew what it meant but I had just seen it yesterday so not fair anyway), but what I wanted to know was if there are non-GNU Linux distributions, and a non-Linux GNU, and kinda curious on how different they were.
Bout the money...
money is abstract. work isn't.
marketing is just a product of a society that has suppresed the role of public spaces: by definition, a public space(be it a park or even a TV Channel) is a means for the public to express itself, but it has turned into a place for advertising of the ones already in power. Their self-advertising.
That's why the internet is so powerful, because it's a place that's really public. And hence it can give birth to things like free software... or open source, or whatever.
I still don't understand the concept of open source as in opposed to free software. One thing that I read on GNU's site was that the definition of free software also implied that you can modify it, and charge for it. Even charge to distribute the original. YOU'RE FREE TO DO WITH IT WHATEVER YOU WANT. that kind of freedom.
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Uberkommando
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2002,06:59 |
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<dilbert> TTP stands for 'The TTP Project' </dilbert>
Recursive acronyms kick ass...
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ic0n0
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2002,07:57 |
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RadioActive
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2002,16:12 |
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i tink that any code released under GPL can't be used to make money later. so if Linus decided to sell his kernel he would not be able to use his own code. i am pretty sure that's how it works.
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Wolfguard
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2002,16:28 |
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| Quote (Wiley @ 22 July 2002,22:12) | | ...or maybe he's into having sex with penquins |
<opus>
Penguin lust is a beautiful and natrual thing...
Todays topic is Nun Beating? oh, i cant stand for that...
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Beldurin
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2002,17:42 |
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| Quote (RadioActive @ 23 July 2002,10:12) | | i tink that any code released under GPL can't be used to make money later. so if Linus decided to sell his kernel he would not be able to use his own code. i am pretty sure that's how it works. |
yup...that's what I said earlier
and Est...PHP originally stood for Personal Home Page tools.
I can go into the history of it too, if you'd like.
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Estėrion
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Posted on: Jul. 24 2002,04:34 |
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please, enlighten us.
btw, could you answer my question bout GNU and Linux???
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Beldurin
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Posted on: Jul. 24 2002,06:50 |
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| Quote (Estėrion @ 23 July 2002,22:34) | please, enlighten us.
btw, could you answer my question bout GNU and Linux??? |
In the late 90's Rasmus Lerdorf wanted to keep track of who was looking at his online resume, so he wrote a perl hack to do it. Some of his buddies heard about it and asked to use it, too. Then he did some more tweaking and created some "Personal Home Page" tools as he called them. Long story short, he kept adding to them, it grew in popularity until it became a scripting language of its own. The PHP Hypertext Preprocessor acronym is actually very recent because they felt somewhat silly having one of the most popular web scripting languages being called "personal home page" tools.
As for the GNU/Linux question, I thought I answered that in my first post. Did you read the paper I linked?
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If someone's ungrateful and you tell him he's ungrateful, okay, you've called him a name.
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