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PostIcon Posted on: Nov. 30 2001,01:19  Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

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Originally posted by MattimeoZ80:
integral can be thought of as the anti-derivative...

you can derive and integrate functions. deriving a function generates a function that gives the slope of the initial function at all values x. integrating gives the area under the function, that is the area below the curves to the axis (area below the axis is subtracted or negative). the integral of x^2 is x^3/3. x^3/3 is the area under x^2's curves... not too many curves on x^2 however i'd say something like x(x+1)(x-1)(x+2)(x-2). theres some curves, heh. ah heck, sin(x)'ll do also.


don't you mean differentiate (or "take the derivative of")? derive means to come up with a formula or proof... My calc teacher gets annoyed if i say "derived" instead of "differentiated."

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Actually, he was correct in using "derivative". Unfortunately, by the time you begin hearing this, you're so far into the depths of math hell that you may never recover. Occasionally they are refered to as "differential coefficients", so that may be what you're speaking about.

A derivative more or less just serves as a limiting value when dealing with independant variables.

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actually chmod was correct. derive means to solve. differentiate means to take the derivative of. differentiating a function decreases its order, while integrating increases it. the derivative of a single variable function is

n*x^n-1

for example

d/dx (x^2) = 2x

the integral is 1/n+1 * x^n+1

for example

x^2 dx = 1/3 x^3 + C

which is just the reverse of the derivative as you can see. if you were to take the derivative of 1/3 x^3 you would get 3*(1/3)*x^2 = x^2

the C is a constant of integration which is nesscessary because if you take the derivaive of a constant (pi, 1, 2, etc), you get 0. So if an original function had a constant in it, you would not know from the integral. The constant basically represents an offset.

the derivative of a function represents its rate of change. for example, if you had a function which represnted a particle's position as a function of time, the derivative would be a function of the particle's speed. the area under the function is the distance it has traveled (multiply x times dx for all dx = integral of x).

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PostIcon Posted on: Nov. 30 2001,05:41 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

mildly amusing for those of us that know calc...
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Finally I know what "Ableitung" is called in English: "derivative"

We're doing derivatives and integrals of e-functions in maths now. Funny little things, I must say... quite sweet. e-functions rule.

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Catknight, you seem to forget that you're only describing the actions of n-order polynomials. When you get into exponentials and trig functions, you have their special rules, plus everything you said resulting in some of the most painful nights of writing and scribbling out letters of your life. I'm glad I never have to take another Calc class again... in fact, I think I ran out of calculus to learn. Thank god.

And, just you wait until you're not talking 1 variable anymore, but you're mixing x's, y's, z's, w's, and t's, plus, you're only considering a few of them at a time, but not others, but they're parametric, blah blah blah. It gets soooo much more painful when you don't follow that y = f(x)

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PostIcon Posted on: Dec. 01 2001,06:22 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

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Originally posted by LiNeY:
We're doing derivatives and integrals of e-functions in maths now. Funny little things, I must say... quite sweet. e-functions rule.

e^x dx = e^x
d/dx e^x = e^x

I like e.


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PostIcon Posted on: Dec. 01 2001,17:29 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Blech. Tried sooooo hard to forget all this stuff, but it just won't happen. Instead it gets jumbled and confusing.

There was once a day where it all made sense.

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PostIcon Posted on: Dec. 01 2001,19:08 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

This is probably the saddest thing I've ever read...GET A FUCKING LIFE!!!

And before anyone tries the "you're just too stupid to understand it" card, yes, I have had calc and no, I didn't fail it.

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You know whats even sadder...that weve gone from at least speaking about sex in some fashion to actually MATH...I knew you guys were geeky but geez louise this is lame...

Sorry I had to :/

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