Topic: Vegas Baby!!
started by: Wiley
Posted by Wiley on Jul. 22 2002,02:12
I just got back from a weekend of sin in the best place for it ...Lost Wages Nevada.I spent most of the time in the VIP lounge at Crazy Horse Too and a few side trips to Club Paradise. I am a huge fan of the Gentlemens Clubs in Vegas, but they do some horrible damage to the wallet.
There is NO sex in the champagne room!!
</chris rock>
Posted by forumwhore on Jul. 22 2002,02:52
this one?
Posted by Mhoraigh on Jul. 22 2002,04:23
Sigh.... poor Vegas, it has such a bad reputation.. since most tourists see downtown, the strip and the strip clubs. Not that I'm a big fan of the city anyway - I lived there for 6 years and it was too long - but there's SO much more to it than strip clubs and casinos.There's some great hiking within an hours drive of the city, lots of cafes with live music from local bands, pool halls... ok, I'm running out of stuff now.. hmm.. oh right, that's why I couldn't stand the place.
On a side note: There are some really nice strip clubs there and some rather dodgy ones. I know a few too many of the strippers so I can't go to the clubs (either because I went to high school with them or because I'm friends with them and have had to drive them to work before..meep). BUT Prostitution is illegal in Clark County, you have to go to the next county to find it.. although there are a few illegals downtown near my old high school.
Wow.. I'm babbling, sorry.. you brought up Vegas.. that always makes me babble.. and apparently use "..." a little too often. I'll stop now.
Posted by Wiley on Jul. 22 2002,05:07
| Quote (Mhoraigh @ 21 July 2002,20:23) |
| there's SO much more to it than strip clubs and casinos. |
I guess nothing is perfect.
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| There's some great hiking within an hours drive of the city |
I'll keep that in mind next time I want to go trailblazing in the 110° heat.
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| BUT Prostitution is illegal in Clark County, you have to go to the next county to find it |
Finding hookers in Clark County is about as difficult as finding Kevin in the forums.
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| there are a few illegals downtown near my old high school |
Can I get a cross street here?
Posted by forumwhore on Jul. 22 2002,05:31
you're wife is so pretty.what did you want again?
Posted by Beastie Dr on Jul. 22 2002,05:57
See, kev, you play this all wrong. You advise him to go fuck all the hookers he can, and then swoop in on the wife.
Posted by forumwhore on Jul. 22 2002,06:17
is there someone you wanna fuck (singly) for the rest of your life?
That is an awesome choice.
And I would like to be stuck with JB's wife.
I mean, hot damn.
Posted by forumwhore on Jul. 22 2002,06:20
absolutley no disrespect, sir
Posted by Wiley on Jul. 22 2002,22:05
| Quote (forumwhore @ 21 July 2002,22:20) |
| absolutley no disrespect, sir |
No worries ...but you do know if you come near her I will have you killed right?
Posted by Beastie Dr on Jul. 22 2002,22:09
Wiley can't do his own dirty work.
Posted by Necromancer on Jul. 22 2002,23:10
| Quote (Mhoraigh @ 22 July 2002,04:23) |
| *static* Vegas *static* bad *static* strip and the strip clubs. *static* strip clubs and casinos. *static* There are some really nice strip clubs there and some rather dodgy ones. I know a few too many of the strippers *static* |
hello people dont want to do anything but strip joints and casinos in vegas. they go someplace else and cheaper if they want that.
Posted by j0eSmith on Jul. 23 2002,00:33
People visit Vegas to:a) See the strippers
b) Visit the Mustang Ranch
c) Incur Gambling Losses
d) Get drunk off the complimentary drinks
Thats really about it.
Posted by Wiley on Jul. 23 2002,01:10
| Quote (Beastie Dr @ 22 July 2002,14:09) |
| Wiley can't do his own dirty work. |
Um ...why would I? Not my prints, not my DNA, and I have an airtight alibi at the time.
Wiley's guide to contract killing:
Rule #1 - Distance
Ok, you know you are going to be a suspect if you wack a guy, so you got to remove yourself from the chain of evidence ...this is key. I like to go for at least 3 degrees of separation, you can get more creative if you have the time or the money, but it's up to you. First I find a random street urchin, semi-nuts type of guy who lives in the area of the victim and possibly had some contact with him/her. The homeless guy outside their building would work fine for this, or the person that delivers their paper in the morning. I meet with this guy and give him some money to setup a PO Box at the local post office, leave a package in the box and give me one of the keys for safe keeping. I'm careful always to wear a baseball cap, not shave and wear dark glasses for the meeting so that I make myself harder to identify if I ever wind up in a court (just a precaution). Then I give the guy the second payment to deliver the second key and instructions to a mob type guy (a wanna-be mobster would work best for this, but the guy has to at least have some shady connections). The mob type guy is instructed (per the instructions ...we never meet) to hire a hit man to off the target or "Mark" and he gets half of his reward upfront (3/4 of which he will be forced to use to pay the hit man’s upfront money with) but the money he gets on the backend is free and clear ...either way he doesn't have to do any more work. This also serves as incentive for the mob-type guy to just do the killing himself and save me some money in the long run ...but if you pick a real wanna-be they will be too much of a pussy and that will never happen ...too bad ...but what can you do, right? So now the hit man is hired per instructions and I get outta town and go somewhere I'll be seen, maybe NY and stand in the window for Good Morning America or TRL or something ...just in case. So after the hit the hit man goes back to the wanna-be mobster guy to collect. The mobster is instructed to turn over the PO Box key to the hit man and then wait for his second package (his payout) to be delivered by the same guy who gave him the instructions in the beginning (the homeless guy). Here's where chaos starts. The PO Box contains some personal artifacts from the now deceased and a claim-check for a certified letter addressed to the victim (just a matter of time now before the police are on this trail) . This will throw any hit man into a tailspin because he has now walked into a steaming pile of evidence linking him to the crime. The wanna-be has no idea what's up and will probably soon be killed by the hit man for giving him the key and no cash (since he was the one who hired him) and the homeless guy is long gone because he knows he's not going to see another dime and was instructed to get the hell away with his cash that he didn't have to do much of anything for in the first place. So what if one or more of these guys gets caught? Lets see.
Hit man- If this guy gets caught it’s because of physical evidence and he will most likely get sent away for murder.
Mobster- If this guy gets nailed it’s because a.) the hit man didn’t kill him like I would expect he would do and b.) because the hit man took a plea bargain for a smaller sentence. He will undoubtedly bring to light the personal artifacts he found at the post office and claim the mobster wanna-be arranged the hit and knew the mark. Courts love to lock up wannabe mobsters …the trail will most likely go cold here.
Homeless guy- If they do find him and drag him into court then it is pretty obvious the hope that the homeless guy would have overdosed on crack didn’t work out and there is some sort of Sherlock Holmes detective on the case. This is pretty bad, but not to worry. The homeless guy has the best defense in the world …pure ignorance ...you picked him because he's an idiot. There is not a jury in the world who will believe that this guy planned this hit and if he just keeps his mouth shut or babbles like a lunatic then they really don’t have much to pin on him …except maybe some video from the Post Office showing him putting stuff into the box …which possession of the key can be traced back to the mobster (the hit man will say that it was the mobster who gave the key to him). And better yet, this crazy homeless guy had some sort of interaction with the victim ...he delivered his/her paper of slept in his/her door way. He'll add a lot of useless info to the puzzle.
At any rate, by this point the entire case is so convoluted that no jury would be able to make sense out of it and it’s doubtful they’d have any way to track you down ...besides, they have a few people to lock up and so they are happy.
I mean, not that I’ve given the idea much thought or anything.
Posted by ^Oni^ on Jul. 23 2002,03:03
Locard's Principle says otherwise.Be it physical evidence or otherwise, all things one deals with both leave some evidence and take some away.
Forensic evidence collection 101.
Posted by Mhoraigh on Jul. 23 2002,14:44
| Quote (j0eSmith @ 22 July 2002,16:33) |
| People visit Vegas to: a) See the strippers b) Visit the Mustang Ranch c) Incur Gambling Losses d) Get drunk off the complimentary drinks Thats really about it. |
I think you should change that to reasons to visit NEVADA - not Vegas, since the Mustang Ranch in not anywhere near Vegas. (On a side note, they were talking about closing it down at one point - did they ever succeed?)
And when I go to Vegas it is to visit friends, perform at the Renaissance Faire, teach workshops at my old performing arts high school, and harass my old coworkers at Borders.... I do not gamble while I'm there - if I drink it's at the best Irish Pub in town (Jacks at the Palace Station) - and if I see any strippers it's because they're the friends I'm visiting and they're fully clothed. So not everyone visits Vegas for the reasons you've given. I know several people who visit for the same basic reasons as I do.
Posted by Wolfguard on Jul. 23 2002,15:21
| Quote (Wiley @ 22 July 2002,20:10) |
| Wiley's guide to contract killing: Rule #1 - Distance Ok, you know you are going to be a suspect if you wack a guy, so you got to remove yourself from the chain of evidence |
even better.
leagly buy a baretta 9mm and get it registered and everything.
on the sly buy another baretta 9mm and remove the barrel then distroy the rest of the gun. jamb something into the barrel to change the pattern of the barrel. (rat tail file)
go to the range the day you want to wack your target. make sure a ton of people see you there shooting. leave the range and swap barrels and ammo. hit target and swap barrels back. distroy/get rid of spare barrel and get rid of the other ammo that is left.
now, when the cops come for you you will have powder on your hands and will be cleaning a gun that was just fired. "well officer, i was at the range all day." works well here. dont hide the fact that you have a dirty gun and powder all over your body. you have a bunch of people that will say "yeah, he was shooting all day."
They will go dig your rounds out of the back stop, out of the dead guy and compare them to what your gun fires. guess what? the rounds from the dead guy dont match your gun. not enough evidence there to convict you.
so, in this PURELY MENTAL EXERSIZE you get the joy of killing the fucker yourself and you get to keep the gun that did it.
Posted by Wiley on Jul. 23 2002,21:34
Guns hurt my ears ...but I like the methodology there.And remember if you do your own hit to keep your distance when shooting to avoid tell-tale blood spatter on your clothing. Dr. Lee the forensics guy will pick up on that in a quick second.
Posted by fatalbert on Jul. 24 2002,08:33
so much sinful thought...
Posted by Wolfguard on Jul. 24 2002,13:56
| Quote (Wiley @ 23 July 2002,16:34) |
| Guns hurt my ears |
thread a scilencer on the end. not like it matters since your tossing the barrel anyway
