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   164383553  OldSchoolRenegadeSna
Started on Mon Jul 08 20:11:36 2002
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OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 2:36 PM  yo

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 2:36 PM  i see you stumbled onto the mess i made for
                                 you to clean up

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 2:36 PM  i must congradulate you

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 2:36 PM  i'm sure it feels great without backups

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 2:36 PM  you've gotten some recent posts back i see

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 2:37 PM  but there are several hundred that were
                                 deleted

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 2:37 PM  given that you're online

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 2:37 PM  i await anything you have to say

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 2:37 PM  regarding this situation

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 2:45 PM  no talkey eh

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 2:45 PM  that's too bad

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:24 PM  I'm here now.

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:39 PM  ah hello

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:39 PM  kay

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:39 PM  i'm having conscience problems, so i thought
                                 i'd apologize.

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:39 PM  i dont want sympathy or forgiveness though

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:39 PM  what is going on at your end?

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:39 PM  well you're a long way from forgiveness at the
                                 moment

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:39 PM  just wondering what the fuck was in my head
                                 earlier today

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:39 PM  I'm more curious than angry

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:40 PM  honestly, to be perfectly frank, i think you
                                 made a bad choice when you bought detonate

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:40 PM  you got in over your head

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:40 PM  i won't fault you for it

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:40 PM  somethimes I agree with that

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:40 PM  but i certainly won't say it was the right
                                 thing to do

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:40 PM  but I have so much fun *sometimes

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:40 PM  your intentions are pure

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:40 PM  kay

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:40 PM  I kept it going

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:40 PM  but i don't think you knew enough about the
                                 site to do what you did

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:40 PM  it was going to be porn

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:40 PM  did you know that?

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:40 PM  no, i did not

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:40 PM  although i suspected

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:40 PM  yes, ask cr0

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:40 PM  with the girls you photographed

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:40 PM  the other guy who bid could've outbid me

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:41 PM  no not my girlies

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:41 PM  ask cr0

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:41 PM  was jason going to make it a porn site or you

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:41 PM  he was selling it

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:41 PM  and the other guy

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:41 PM  could out bid

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:41 PM  me

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:41 PM  and detonate would mean to cum

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:41 PM  the other guy said

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:41 PM  he would just get another DNS

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:42 PM  it might still be in the classroom

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:42 PM  in las November

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:42 PM  yes I did get in over my head

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:42 PM  I thought the members would whip

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:42 PM  a site together in no time

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:42 PM  I was wrong

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:42 PM  they want to but none of them can

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:42 PM  not even richard

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:42 PM  five times I'be been promised a site

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:42 PM  it takes someone like jason to make detonate
                                 work

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:42 PM  not even R

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:42 PM  I agree

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:42 PM  and quite honestly

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:43 PM  he stopped caring

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:43 PM  at one point

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:43 PM  and it showed

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:43 PM  yes, no updates

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:43 PM  I remember that

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:43 PM  for weeks even

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:43 PM  I still look at the bastardizations

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:43 PM  I miss his old navtabs

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:43 PM  but I have a lot of new friends

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:43 PM  a lot of people left

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:44 PM  they wouldn't post what they wanted to read

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:44 PM  yes, I hear that CatKnight left because of me

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:44 PM  or something like that

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:44 PM  well, he's been upset for a while

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:44 PM  and I think today

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:44 PM  was like, fuck this, too much trouble

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:44 PM  I still think hes' been  depressed

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:45 PM  The news post part is just taking off in the
                                 last couple weeks

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:45 PM  The forums are healthy

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:45 PM  or they were

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:45 PM  cough

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:45 PM  yeah, just so you know what i did

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:45 PM  i moved 30 posts to politics

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:45 PM  kay

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:46 PM  and then i was there thinking about what i had
                                 just done

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:46 PM  and realized i was about to be banned

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:46 PM  so i said fuck it

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:46 PM  and made the best of it

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:46 PM  deleted a bunch

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:46 PM  all of the news

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:46 PM  I never banned anyone since I got here

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:46 PM  and a bunch of recent stuff from classroom

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:46 PM  Yah I was wondering

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:46 PM  there was stuff I couldn't find

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:47 PM  i'd guess i deleted 150 posts from classroom

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:47 PM  only Richard has been banned and now you and
                                 one script kiddie

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:47 PM  ok 150

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:47 PM  that's a lot of clicks

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:47 PM  tab down tab town tab down a whole bunch

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:47 PM  changed all the combo boxes to say "Delete"

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:47 PM  then hit the proceed button or whatever

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:47 PM  When the people who spent all that time
                                 writing think `

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:47 PM  about what they lost

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:47 PM  they would be angry

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:48 PM  and disappointed

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:48 PM  like me

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:48 PM  I'm sorry you didn;'t get the help you wanted

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:48 PM  remember I tried to help you

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:48 PM  that's not what it was about

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:48 PM  in 4 ways

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:48 PM  kay

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:48 PM  i mean, the idiots that replied to my thread
                                 sort of broke the straw

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:48 PM  but it was way more complicated than that

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:48 PM  some of them are newer

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:48 PM  and would do things

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:48 PM  they wouldn't say when they

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:49 PM  had been here a little longer

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:49 PM  I am amazed you would come back and talk about
                                 it

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:49 PM  I emailed Jason about you

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:49 PM  i expected you would

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:49 PM  he's gone for a while

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:50 PM  and i doubt when he gets back he'll say much

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:50 PM  to be entirely honest

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:50 PM  yes he's not responded

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:50 PM  well someone said I should ban him too

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:50 PM  that boggles my mind

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:50 PM  but so has what you've done to us

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:50 PM  banning him would probably split the forums
                                 down the middle

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:50 PM  since he is kind of the guy that started it
                                 all

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:50 PM  I did nothing

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:50 PM  but the person who wrote me

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:50 PM  of course, i played a big role in it too,
                                 which is part of the reason all the people i
                                 talked to are so confused

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:51 PM  said that J must be in on it

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:51 PM  I have no idea

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:51 PM  who said that

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:51 PM  heh

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:51 PM  nope

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:51 PM  i mean, jason's in europe right now.

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:51 PM  oh my

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:51 PM  Wiley?

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:51 PM  I can't say that

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:51 PM  he was the first one to catch it.

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:51 PM  yes he was

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:51 PM  or maybe Dysorderia

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:51 PM  I got on right after him

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:51 PM  I'm not saying

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:51 PM  doesn't matter if they

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:51 PM  are wrong anyways

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:52 PM  So have you done this before elsewhere?

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:52 PM  nope.

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:52 PM  What do you expect Detnet to do now?

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:53 PM  And why the change of feelings?

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:54 PM  eh, i still think that i'd feel better if
                                 detonate was closed.

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:54 PM  Ah

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:54 PM  its kind of like this... jason and i put a lot
                                 of work into that site

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:54 PM  and the bastardizations go offline too?

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:54 PM  and its using the same name now and frankly
                                 sucks.

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:54 PM  It's not what it used to be

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:55 PM  kind of like an insult to our original work

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:55 PM  and I don't claim to be done either

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:55 PM  jason doesn't care as much

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:55 PM  ahh

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:55 PM  cause he got paid

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:55 PM  1250 I think it was

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:55 PM  or 1400

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:55 PM  don't remember

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:55 PM  what change of feeling are you referring to

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:55 PM  3 different new servers

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:55 PM  you are recalcitrant now

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:56 PM  and speed upgrade to SDSL

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:56 PM  sometimes 2 gigs a day throughput

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:56 PM  well, how was i before

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:56 PM  other than being recalcitrant now

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:56 PM  why didn't you just eliminate the entire
                                 forums?

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:56 PM  It sure could've been worse

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:57 PM  yeah

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:57 PM  well

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:57 PM  it takes time to delete posts

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:57 PM  and i had somewhere to be

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:57 PM  and move them back

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:57 PM  ah

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:57 PM  ran out of killing time?

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:57 PM  yeah

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:57 PM  well I'm glad for that!

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:57 PM  i could have done some real damage given
                                 enough time

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:57 PM  that's what I meant

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:58 PM  we just had a script kiddie like a week ago

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 6:58 PM  what did he do

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:58 PM  I'm very sorry that Detnet isn't continuing

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:58 PM  like Jason's did

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:59 PM  the kid just ran up his post count to 850

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:59 PM  in one day

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:59 PM  like we wouldn't notice

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:59 PM  Detnet is not done

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:59 PM  growing

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:59 PM  I've tried to buy a site several times

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:59 PM  custom built

kbreak     7/8/2002 6:59 PM  right now I'm broke

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:00 PM  Many of the old school are still on the forums

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:00 PM  heh i'll tell you, richard sure has some
                                 unkind things to say about you

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:00 PM  he can be unrelentingly negative

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:00 PM  he seems to say bad things about everyone to
                                 each other

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:00 PM  I'll clue you in

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:00 PM  something

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:00 PM  I let him think I'm even more

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:00 PM  tarded than I am

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:00 PM  just so I could listen to how he

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:01 PM  speaks and what he says

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:01 PM  he spent a half hour

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:01 PM  explaining to me

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:01 PM  floating and static IPs

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:01 PM  and I already knew but

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:01 PM  didn't say anything

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:01 PM  I did give him two chances

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:01 PM  and he dropped the ball

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:01 PM  and everyone shamed me

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:01 PM  told you so

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:02 PM  I need to be meaner on the board

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:02 PM  and I don't like being mean

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:02 PM  I'm cruel sometimes

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:02 PM  but not hurtful like to the gut

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:02 PM  I've made so many mistakes

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:02 PM  well here's a piece of advice

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:02 PM  but I'm learning

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:02 PM  yes?

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:02 PM  demod everyone and you be the only admin

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:02 PM  if you must designate one other

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:02 PM  pick wisely

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:02 PM  but dont have more than yourself and someone
                                 else running things

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:02 PM  actually I eliminated mods this am

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:03 PM  thats how jason kept control of the forums

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:03 PM  it was just him and I

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:03 PM  he tried letting CK mod

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:03 PM  but CK pulled some stupid shit

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:03 PM  so he pulled CK's mod status

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:03 PM  I wondered about you when I bought it

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:03 PM  that happened again you know

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:03 PM  did it

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:03 PM  he was an admin for a litttle while

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:04 PM  bad move

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:04 PM  I know

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:04 PM  hold on phone

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:04 PM  business

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:04 PM  k... don't give people the keys just because
                                 of their postcount

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:21 PM  Just got a job

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:22 PM  not bad

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:22 PM  can you believe Dys was an Admin?

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:22 PM  but not for long

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:22 PM  i noticed he changed my post

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:22 PM  I tried out a lot of people to find effective
                                 onse

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:23 PM  oh I hate it when he does that

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:23 PM  I took away his mod status before for that

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:23 PM  I check the logs and most Admins don't do
                                 *anything

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:24 PM  I end up doing all the lost pw requests

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:24 PM  Is there anything you'd like to tell Detnet
                                 now?

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:24 PM  Did you know we lost two members to suicide?

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:25 PM  yeah

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:25 PM  they were in the news posts that are gone now
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:25 PM  xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:25 PM  ddddddddd

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:25 PM  one more comment, so what?

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:25 PM  Just that looking back, what I did was indeed
                                 lame, but I won't deny having fun doing it,
                                 and I still mean the things I said about the
                                 members and forums.

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:25 PM  Okay

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:26 PM  I wish Jason was still

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:26 PM  running Detnet and

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:26 PM  stil being funny

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:26 PM  but he's not

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:26 PM  I did what i could/can

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:26 PM  and I'm having fun and so are most forum
                                 members

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:27 PM  So did you ever get any old news posts?

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:27 PM  nope

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:27 PM  none at all

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:27 PM  damn

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:27 PM  that's a pity

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:27 PM  but now I have other issues

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:28 PM  So you wrote me to say you have second
                                 thoughts

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:28 PM  about what you did, right?

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:28 PM  in essence yes

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:28 PM  kay

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:29 PM  I think the worst part is losing the eulogies
                                 for those two guys

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:29 PM  when ic0n0 figures it out.... I dunno what
                                 he'll say

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:29 PM  xxxxxxxxxxxx

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:29 PM  kay

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:29 PM  xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                             xxxxxxx

break     7/8/2002 7:30 PM  that's an interesting position to hold

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:30 PM  kay



kbreak     7/8/2002 7:31 PM  do you think you would attack a forum like
                                 this again?

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:31 PM  like mine?

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:32 PM  i didn't think i would beforehand

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:32 PM  so anything i say in regards to that

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:32 PM  would be invalid

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:32 PM  ahh

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:32 PM  it sure didn't occur to me

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:32 PM  when I remade you mod

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:32 PM  I thought maybe you could find something to
                                 click on

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:32 PM  in Admin that would help

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:32 PM  W0w.

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:33 PM  I iknow a lot of people think like you

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:33 PM  but they just leave

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:33 PM  slate has never talked to me

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:33 PM  and I've asked him to

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:33 PM  he won't say a WORD

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:33 PM  the emails don't bounce back so...

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:33 PM  I went to many other forums to learn more
                                 about mine

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:34 PM  and this one is doing fine with the occasional
                                 flame

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:34 PM  war that gets out of hand

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:34 PM  but I hear that's normal

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:34 PM  I would narrow the admins down

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:35 PM  but they're not abusing anything

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:35 PM  and they are my friends and i don't want to
                                 "insult" them

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:35 PM  but I am tempted

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:35 PM  I've learned a lot from this experience, not
                                 that I'm

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:35 PM  feeling grateful

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:36 PM  I always think that discourse

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:36 PM  is best

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:36 PM  So what are you working on now instead of
                                 Detnet?

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:36 PM  consulting work

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:36 PM  or is there nothing and so you return to
                                 destroy?

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:36 PM  and soon, a nissan 240sx performance site

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:36 PM  ahh

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:37 PM  you know if

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:37 PM  you hadn't done this

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:37 PM  you could've posted about it here.

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:37 PM  no, i will tell you that i am done with
                                 detonate, i don't think it's very likely
                                 you'll be seeing me in the site again

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:37 PM  well you'll need an new IP

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:37 PM  its not important to me

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:37 PM  it was last night

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:37 PM  i can't add anything of value to your forums

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:38 PM  I wonder what you did add from that act

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:38 PM  there is always a silver lining somewhere

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:38 PM  I don't see it now

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:38 PM  isn't it odd to converse with you

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:38 PM  ?

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:38 PM  and me

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:38 PM  after this

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:38 PM  I didn't get mad

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:38 PM  i suppose so

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:38 PM  Incubus did that for me

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:38 PM  i talked to incubus

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:38 PM  he was surprisingly levelheaded

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:39 PM  I did get real concerned and busy

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:39 PM  and at the end of our convo

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:39 PM  y

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:39 PM  ?

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:39 PM  he actually said "talk to you next time"

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:39 PM  really

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:39 PM  yeah

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:39 PM  I can never predict him

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:39 PM  I like that

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:39 PM  mostly

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:39 PM  hes a very rational person

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:39 PM  and cheerful

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:39 PM  though i must say

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:39 PM  yes

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:39 PM  i bet if anyone but me had done this

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:39 PM  yes

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:39 PM  they wouldn't get the same sympathy

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:39 PM  um kay

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:39 PM  they would just get the cold shoulder

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:39 PM  I can't say

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:40 PM  sympathy is the wrong word

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:40 PM  I'm new school

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:40 PM  but you should know what i mean

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:40 PM  kay

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:40 PM  just put it this way

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:40 PM  i was an integral part of detonate

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:40 PM  aside from Jason

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:40 PM  i was the only one that posted news

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:40 PM  or made content for the site

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:40 PM  really

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:40 PM  I didn't know that

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:40 PM  i wrote buromisan

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:40 PM  make a post about it

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:40 PM  say "What was buromisan?"

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:40 PM  I stil get email about that

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:40 PM  you're sure to get a lot of fond memories

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:40 PM  I get requests

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:40 PM  I wish we were still on the same side

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:41 PM  not that we ever were

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:41 PM  that would've been funner

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:41 PM  you know when I found Detnet was for sale?

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:41 PM  the bid was 81$

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:41 PM  up to 81

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:42 PM  I couldn't believe it, I loved checking Detnet

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:42 PM  I thought, for 81 I'll buy the damn thing

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:42 PM  ended up at 1250ish

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:42 PM  and I pay for the server

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:42 PM  every month

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:42 PM  I felt I was preserviing something special on
                                 the 'net

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:42 PM  not that it happend that way

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:43 PM  but the bastardizations are priceless

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:43 PM  I have gone through a lot of pain being here

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:43 PM  when I fuck up

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:43 PM  when I take something the wrong way

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:43 PM  or too serious

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:43 PM  and I would do it all again in one minute flat

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:44 PM  I am tired of feeling stupid here

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:44 PM  I will always be the one who don't know the
                                 answer

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:44 PM  I must learn to be ok with that

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:44 PM  some ppl know so much about computers I don't

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:44 PM  even want to try to learn

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:44 PM  I'll never catch up

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:44 PM  I am learning to be an Admin

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:44 PM  I think I'm halfway there

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:45 PM  I think it's ironic that such a computer
                                 intensive site

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:45 PM  would end up being with someone who just knows
                                 

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:45 PM  how to type

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:45 PM  ironic

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:45 PM  Um

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:46 PM  are you done?

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:46 PM  eh?

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:46 PM  done with what

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:46 PM  you weren't saying anything is all

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:46 PM  well, i was listening

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:46 PM  kay

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:46 PM  there's no point in saying anything if you
                                 don't have anything to say

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:46 PM  oh

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:46 PM  doesn't mean you can't listen

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:46 PM  kay just checking

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:47 PM  pity Richards new skin don't work so hot

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:47 PM  it looked great when it did work

Kbreak     7/8/2002 7:49 PM  no idea what it might mean

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:49 PM  I wish you had talked to me before

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:49 PM  you are an interesting person

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:49 PM  so is Richard

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:49 PM but

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:49 PM  well, the things i have to say about your
                                 running the site are negative

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:50 PM  there's no reason for me to upset you

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:50 PM  but since you already are

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:50 PM  it's not a big step to talk to you personally

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:50 PM  well, not too pleasd

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:50 PM  I never imagined we would be having this
                                 conversation

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:50 PM  So did you feel you were killing a monster
                                 that

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:50 PM  was out of hand and

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:51 PM  past it's due date

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:51 PM  zombie?

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:51 PM  Did you feel you were taking control

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:51 PM  of something that was once yours

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:51 PM  no

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:51 PM  and now was beserk?

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:51 PM  i was doing what i did out of spite

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:51 PM  that was a lot of spite, sir

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:52 PM  i can be a very spiteful person at times

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:52 PM  I can only imagine

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:52 PM  for the record

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:52 PM  so does it work for you?

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:52 PM  damien s lucifer offered me admin a long time
                                 ago

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:52 PM  and i turned it down

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:52 PM  ah

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:52 PM  he was one for a time

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:52 PM  he is very special to me

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:52 PM  I call him the Godfather of Detnet

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:53 PM  at least these days

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:54 PM  Did you ever read any of the posts you killed?

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:54 PM  or read them before?

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:54 PM  no

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:54 PM  ah

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:54 PM  I would've been selective perhaps

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:55 PM  "how do I do this..?"

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:55 PM  and then deleted the answer

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:55 PM  or the question

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:55 PM  Funny you would offer me advice

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:55 PM  after all this

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:55 PM  I don't really know how to feel right now

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:56 PM  but I am intensely interested.

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:56 PM  So you are sad about the state of Detnet?

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:56 PM  not sad

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:56 PM  i just think its pathetic

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:57 PM  kay

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:57 PM  and the forums especially?

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:57 PM  yeahy

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:57 PM  well

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 7:57 PM  theres not much more

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:57 PM  no there is not right now

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:58 PM  I've tried several times and I'm not done

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:58 PM  I would like to think that whatever Detnet
                                 used to be

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:58 PM  and is now

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:59 PM  will not be the same some time from now

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:59 PM  it is a living thing

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:59 PM  It would be so much easier

kbreak     7/8/2002 7:59 PM  to just click on the link to Detnet

kbreak     7/8/2002 8:00 PM  it's still the same one on my puter

kbreak     7/8/2002 8:00 PM  and see what's new

kbreak     7/8/2002 8:00 PM  than to do this

kbreak     7/8/2002 8:00 PM  but I am and I will do the best I can

kbreak     7/8/2002 8:00 PM  with what I have

kbreak     7/8/2002 8:00 PM  in the conditions that there are

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 8:01 PM  well i must take my leave of you

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 8:01 PM  and attend to a few matters of business

kbreak     7/8/2002 8:01 PM  ok then

kbreak     7/8/2002 8:02 PM  In a way I'm glad you called

kbreak     7/8/2002 8:02 PM  Now I have something to ponder all night

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 8:02 PM  http://forums.somethingawful.com/images/title-
                                 tcshadow.jpg

kbreak     7/8/2002 8:02 PM  I hope this never happens again to any forum I
                                 know

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 8:02 PM  i will be watching

kbreak     7/8/2002 8:02 PM  kay I'll look

kbreak     7/8/2002 8:02 PM  I thought you said you'd never be back

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 8:02 PM  nah im just fooling around

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 8:03 PM  i had to insert that jpeg

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 8:03 PM  somehow

kbreak     7/8/2002 8:03 PM  what for, is it an avatar?

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 8:03 PM  yeah

kbreak     7/8/2002 8:03 PM  is it your old one?

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 8:03 PM  nah

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 8:03 PM  its just one i made

kbreak     7/8/2002 8:03 PM  k

kbreak     7/8/2002 8:03 PM  why then?

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 8:03 PM  why make it or include it

kbreak     7/8/2002 8:03 PM  here and now?

kbreak     7/8/2002 8:04 PM  just curious

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 8:04 PM  because people tell me my psycho face is
                                 unusually accurate

kbreak     7/8/2002 8:04 PM  ah

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 8:04 PM  especially when digitally enhanced

kbreak     7/8/2002 8:04 PM  are you saying your psycho?

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 8:04 PM  no

kbreak     7/8/2002 8:04 PM  kay

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 8:04 PM  well

kbreak     7/8/2002 8:04 PM  well

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 8:04 PM  we are all in our own way

kbreak     7/8/2002 8:04 PM  yes

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 8:04 PM  but there is nothing for which you should
                                 continue to worry about

kbreak     7/8/2002 8:05 PM  well, good

kbreak     7/8/2002 8:05 PM  I think you made your statement

kbreak     7/8/2002 8:05 PM  are you off then?

OldSchoolR 7/8/2002 8:05 PM  yep

kbreak     7/8/2002 8:05 PM  kay bye

(edited for clarity by forumwhore)

(DL you knew I would do this)

And there you have it, Detnet.

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Let me beat a dead horse for a minute.

1) Editor, you're not cr0. Don't try to be cr0. cr0 is gone, and it's probably for the better. RS said it himself -- he got tired of it. His end of detnet died. It's all gone, and all that's left is his bastardizations. They're funny. You paid for them. They're yours. These forums are more important than those bastardizations. Let the 'vets bitch and moan about how much stuff has changed. Doesn't matter. It's not going to change back. If they don't like it, let them leave. More will come.

2) RS is wrong. Yes, detnet was part of his life. Not anymore. I might feel the same way if one of my partners sold my game to a gaming network. It won't change the fact that it happened. Sure, it's a part of my life that I've worked a hell of a long time on -- longer than cr0 and RS did with detnet. It may be an 'insult to my original work.' Being bitter won't help. They sold it. End of story. They can't ask for it to change because they don't like what the buyer did with it.

3) Don't give up on us. The 'vets may be leaving, people may be deciding it's not worth it, but there's still a few of us out here, the lurkers and 'newbies' who liked detnet for who it's made up of and not what it contains, who would do anything to keep it around.

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